runninhorn
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posted May 07, 2004 09:07 PM
Arata vs Sato vs Akra
Currently researching these three exhausts for the 10R, and between these 3, which do you feel is the better system for this bike? Which would you buy, and why? Thanks for any opinions in advance.........
   
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Big Daddy
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posted May 08, 2004 02:08 AM
All 3 brands are high quality components. I've only had experience with a full ARATA Ti system on my 02 R1 and i must say the tone, fit, craftsmanship, materials are top shelf.
I too am considering a Sato slip-on when they become available, heck even a Moriwaki ANO slip would be sweet as well.
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posted May 08, 2004 06:47 AM
Of the 3, I know the least about the Arata.
I've seen demo pipes but no production pipes - that being said, almost any pipe still made in Japan is usually very high quality.
The Akro's are well known and the full Ti Sato system I had on my 12 was a work of art.
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CanyonCarver
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posted May 08, 2004 06:49 AM
I'm waiting to see the dyno curves on the Arata and Sato full systems. I like the Sato build quality the best, with Arata a VERY close second. FWIW, Sato said they will have a pipe by the middle of May, when I called a month ago. And said they would have rearsets available by the end of May.
We'll see....
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posted May 08, 2004 06:54 AM
My opinion having personally owned them all in question is Arata first , Sato second and PRICEY , and Akro last place and what a joke . I bought an Akro because of all the BS hype I read about and heard from the boys . What a mistake I made on that purchase .
The Akropovic seems to have a raspy sound to everyone I have heard . Nowhere near as deep and powerful a tone as an Arata , Muzzy or a Yosh . You ever heard the shrill eeking sound of an Akro on a 600cc bike ? Like finger nails on a chalkboard .
Sato is a great pipe but mucho coin . Also "I" think it is rather plain in looks . Performance and sound are top shelf . They seem to make slipons mostly . That means to me easy money . Not much R&D for a slipon .
Arata , Muzzys , Jardine and Yosh are my personal favorites . But for my RC51 , she wears the Sato Banzai's .
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posted May 08, 2004 07:29 AM
Seems to me that Sato has dropped their prices by a few hundred $ - their full systems seem to be around $1200 now (as oppsed to the $1800+ they were a year or 2 ago).
They had a bitchin quick release fuel tank setup there too (I used this type of setup on the Busa and while it doesn't seem like much, it sure was convenient).
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posted May 08, 2004 03:46 PM
Sato
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Dan Kyle told me on the phone that Sato will only make a slipon for the 10R . I am looking for a full system .
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posted May 08, 2004 04:06 PM
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Dan Kyle told me on the phone that Sato will only make a slipon for the 10R . I am looking for a full system .
That bites! When did you talk to him? I ask only 'cause I called Sato about 3 weeks ago, and was told they would have a full system ready by middle of May. Maybe they are having problems making it work and have shelved the project. I heard they had problems with producing a system for the 636. Maybe Sato can't figure out the Kwacks?
If that's the case, then come on Arata!
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DKET
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posted May 08, 2004 04:38 PM
I talked to Dan Kyle 4 days ago . As usual the Sato slipon price was the same as other makes full systems .
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runninhorn
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posted May 08, 2004 05:49 PM
I priced a Full Arata today at a local dealer and it was $1100......I may just have him order that one and install it, dont think I can go wrong with Arata......
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posted May 08, 2004 08:45 PM
Arata = Superbike sound, good price work of art
Had one on my 03 gsxr 1000
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posted May 09, 2004 04:57 AM
I have an Akrapovic on my 12...I highly recommend it!!!...That is the only pipe I will ever buy again...Paid $930.00 from Spencercycles.com
I have seen the Arata, Arrow and are almost a carbon copy of the Akrapovic... Ti-Force, Hindle step seems like a copy of the Akra...But thats the way it is, all the manufacturers copy each other...
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posted May 09, 2004 08:38 AM
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I love the Ackro!(first one) Great quality etc. The only full Ti system I could find at the time.
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posted May 09, 2004 10:19 AM
Edited By: EastBayDave on 9 May 2004 11:21
Tsukigi? Taken from their site:
Kawasaki ZX-10R 04' STAINLESS ALUMINUM 115 X 480 733-10 $ 749.95
titan115x480 733-11 $ 849.95
titan titan115x480 733-20 $1,499.
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posted May 09, 2004 01:53 PM
Edited By: rubber pants on 1 Feb 2006 15:12
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posted May 09, 2004 01:54 PM
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runninhorn
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posted May 09, 2004 02:15 PM
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Arata = Superbike sound, good price work of art
Had one on my 03 gsxr 1000
so you would buy another? What kind of sound did it make? Comparable to what other exhaust for your gixxer 1k? Loud as a D&D? Throaty? Raspy? Thanks for the input......
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runninhorn
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posted May 09, 2004 02:16 PM
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I have an Akrapovic on my 12...I highly recommend it!!!...That is the only pipe I will ever buy again...Paid $930.00 from Spencercycles.com
I have seen the Arata, Arrow and are almost a carbon copy of the Akrapovic... Ti-Force, Hindle step seems like a copy of the Akra...But thats the way it is, all the manufacturers copy each other...
wow, thats a great price, I just priced a Full Ak for the 10R and it was $1750ish.....
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Eric_The_Jew
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posted February 01, 2006 11:15 AM
Runninhorn, he was probably referring to the stainless Akrapovic system (the race) being $930.00. A titanium system for that price would be a hell of a deal.
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posted February 01, 2006 02:56 PM
Better late than never! 
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posted February 01, 2006 03:00 PM
Holy thread resurrection Batman!
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