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guamaniac


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posted April 24, 2004 08:10 PM        
Hey you guys in the know...you might want to check this out....

Don't know if you have register to read....Here is the URL and the message just in case....Truth or BS??


http://kawiforums.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16013


"As most can tell I am a Paramedic and i am at work today and have a story tell all ZX-10 owners. My partner and I overheard on the highway patrol responding to a certain road today for "motorcycles driving wreckless, about 10 min we are called to the same road for a motorcycle crash. When we get there the driver is walking around with some bad road rash. He said he was driving the bike and the back end started shaking real bad and the next thing he knows he is eating pavement. a guy driving behind him said he "got on the bike" and peices of the rear started flying off. I walked over to look at what was left of the bike and it was a ZX-10 and the rear rim had split completly in half along the points were the spokes connect, when i asked the guy what year model he said 04. The tire had come of the rim and you could see were the rim had dug into the pavement. He did not get a ticket but had bad road rash on his ass, he said he is sueing Kaw and the police report states that the reason for the crash was vehicle malfuction "rear rim came apart resulting in tire pressure loss. very starnge"

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swft


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posted April 24, 2004 08:17 PM        
Hard to say. I tend to disbelieve it. But that's just me.
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posted April 24, 2004 09:04 PM        
I think Yamaha started that story!!! lol
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zeta xray


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posted April 24, 2004 09:07 PM        
I read this on kawiforums and like I posted over there. I think this is Bull S%#t.
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redelk


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posted April 24, 2004 10:29 PM        
"Malfunction" is a rather vague term. That like saying the Firestone Wilderness series of tires were defective. When many of the claims against these tires are closely reviewed, in many of the cases, it appeared that the failure was more due to improper utilization or failure of the consumer to follower the proper guidelines of the product's use.

Driving an already top heavy SUV, with a substantial payload of passengers and cargo, AND not bother to even check, much less adjust the tire's pressure to accommodate such a payload... should hardly be the fault of the manufacturer. Several instances told of extremely low tire pressures (more than a 10 psi deficit), as well a inconsistent pressures from tire to tire.

Not having actually witness the accident ourselves, to speculate as to what the cause was, is just that.... speculation. The only supposed witness's description hardly constitutes a viable definition of why the accident occurred. To ride such a bike in a "spirited manner" (enough to warrant a phone call to the authorities), yet wear apparel that would result in a serious road rash on any part of his body, underscores this rider's lack of both knowledge and experience. That is if these series of events actually transpired.

More likely, a more realistic assumption of what caused this accident would be a transposed version of the officer's report. What caused the loss of tire pressure could be anything from road debris (nails, glass, etc.) to the rider's failure of monitoring the tires condition and pressure. Unless that officer has extensive training in the forensic sciences, there is no way he could come to such a conclusion.

Of course, in reality, this is more like verbal masturbation since this post, with its "unnamed" highway and other such facts, reeks of nothing more than a ... fishing trip.

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iculukn


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posted April 25, 2004 01:43 AM        
Yeah, what "redelk" says! fishing story!
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Michael Lee


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posted April 25, 2004 03:25 AM        
thanks for the post
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DB


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posted April 25, 2004 05:36 PM        
Red always has a way with words - I think he missed his calling as a writer.
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bigju


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posted April 25, 2004 07:04 PM        
Red from what I know officers that respond to traffic crash reports don't do inspections of vehicles to determine the cause of a single vehicle crash. Most departments have units within that investigate. I have done a couple of crash reports during my time in patrol. At no time did I "investigate" as to the function of the vehicle. I'm not saying that the wheel couldn't break, I am saying that it sounds like this story has been doctored. But then that just my professional opinion
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posted April 25, 2004 07:40 PM        
A couple of months ago, my brother flipped his recently-completed Cobra replica, complete with 17" Halibrand look-alikes and a supercharged, fuel injected 347. The police gave him a ticket (in the hospital, no less) for "failure to maintain control" even though my brother explained that something in the front end let go because the car suddenly shot off in the wrong direction.

The officer said to explain it to the judge.

The insurance company came out and, after inspection, determined a broken ball-joint to be the cause of the wreck. He brought the letter from the insurance inspector to the judge and got out of his ticket.

Just an example of how it works. . .

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johnnyboy


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posted April 26, 2004 06:37 AM        
This sounds like another case of the "I hick rail road tracks at 40 mph and experienced this whopper of a tank slapper, the resulting tank slapper is to blame for the bent rim this guy has". Yeah, I tend to lean toward the 40 mph inpact of the rims hitting the tracks resulted in the bent rim, now he wants KHI to pay for it.

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posted April 26, 2004 06:39 PM        
Red, you summed it up. Plus the rim isnt brittle. It doesnt start cracking and break apart. Modern rims in bike accidents bend up in pretzels sometimes and may not break a piece off. So for it to just start cracking apart? I suppose a hurrendus defect in the casting on that one rim is a possability. But VERY, VERY doubtfull.

I smell worms...
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sasrac575


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posted April 27, 2004 05:34 PM        
assrash

first off sorry for your misfortune but its sounds to me like you werent wearing leathers.....hell you dont play hockey or football with out proper protective gear ....the same goes for motorcycles......wear fickin leathers!

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