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posted April 22, 2004 10:00 AM        
Tweaking the 10r...

So has anyone tweaked the 10r yet to find out what its really capable of?
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RadCow


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posted April 22, 2004 07:23 PM        
Waiting on you man!

Just look what you did for the 12. 'Y2k mods' - it's googleable

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posted April 22, 2004 07:42 PM        
Hey,

I was going to put out the word to you and TedG to see if you guys are on 10's?
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posted April 22, 2004 08:02 PM        
We have some customers ready tyo do it...BUT thge JE Pistons are not ready yet and the cams have to be snet in to WEB Cams....so most guys are waiting on the fall ....BUT right now most are wanting a Muzzy Full Exh system for the bikes
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posted April 23, 2004 02:19 AM        
Radcow, Well, we gotta get otto65 to ride the piss out of his 10 this weekend. This way he gets the breakin out of the way and I get the chevelle blocked out for the last time for paint.

Havabusa, I had full intensions to get the 10r. But I just bought an 02 SS camaro convertable to play with this summer. I need $7000 for a supercharger, roll bar, exhaust etc. so I cant this year. Next year thou.

Spence, I was actually really talking about working with what kawi gave everyone. No add on parts. Just finding all the free HP in the bike.
I dont think there will be as much "free" hp in the 10r. But ya never know till ya poke around.
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palomartian


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posted April 23, 2004 07:15 AM        
A fork tube through the cat is kinda free. Anybody done that yet?
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RadCow


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posted April 23, 2004 05:38 PM        
Where IS the cat on this thing??

On the 12 it was in the pipe - where the pipe met the muffler.

I haven't taken the can off the 10 yet,
....but I don't see the cat at all in the technical drawings ..


I got to promise myself to dyno this one STOCK before I start fiddlin'

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posted April 23, 2004 05:57 PM        
Then look at the magazine cutaway shots of the prepro bike...



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posted April 23, 2004 06:23 PM        
I had the can off of ottos tonight. Theres power to be had in there.
I looked it over quite well.
He's gotta get the breakin done so we can get a base line first.

We took off the rear fender and tail lamps etc tonight. Bike looks much better.

The CAT is in the can. Wasnt that a line in a movie?

No, it was "the chicken is in the pot" I forget the movie. About comandos in panama or somthing.

But really, I think there is a few hp in the can. Maybe a few in timing. Maybe a few in the airbox and or filter.
6 hp doesnt seem unrealistic to me.

I noticed there is a rubber insulating blanket from the radiator to the countershaft going over the entire engine. Or so it appears so far.

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posted April 23, 2004 07:23 PM        
Cat is in the can,chicken in the pot? Dude put the wine glass down.LOL .The fender eliminator kit was from Ballistic motorsports. It was $35.00 and was here in 2 days. I had top enlarge the turn signal holes but other than that it fit mint. No more license plate lamp. Looks WAY cooler. Maybe Y2K can post the pics??? Thanks agian Y2K for the help. Otto
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posted April 24, 2004 04:11 AM        
LOL, yea, it was the wine. Hows your head after that RedBull and Grey Goose? Like mine? Soft,warm and fuzzy?

Now get out there and put 300 miles on that thing today!
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posted April 24, 2004 06:13 AM        
Y2K; Adjust the valves to the loose side of spec and sync the tb's. There is where the FREE power is!!

I would also look for ANY leaks in the ram air system
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posted April 24, 2004 01:47 PM        
So why would loose valves make more power?
And why would syncronizing the throttle bodies make more power if they are wide open?
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posted April 24, 2004 03:42 PM        
I bet the second has to do with the secondary throttle valve sensor. The first just makes sense - you want the valves to shut fully.

But I admit that I really wonder why this was suggested by the one who suggested it (not psycho).

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posted April 25, 2004 04:07 PM        
Nitrous aint exactly free.... but it sure is fun.....lol
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posted April 25, 2004 05:33 PM        
quote:
I bet the second has to do with the secondary throttle valve sensor. The first just makes sense - you want the valves to shut fully.

I'm not sure I follow... can you explain?
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posted April 25, 2004 07:52 PM        Edited By: engineermike on 25 Apr 2004 20:56
In automotive drag race engines, you can get more top-end power by adjusting valves to the tight end of the spec. This makes the cam act like it has more duration.

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posted April 25, 2004 08:56 PM        
You guys are too damn smart . Where do you learn all of this stuff? Oh, who cares, just keep posting it some stupid people like me can benefit .
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posted April 25, 2004 09:11 PM        
Yeah, but setting 'em on the loose end retards the timing and reduces lift at the valve by like well, almost nothing. And why WOULD synching the t/b's have anything to do with power psycho. You guys are thinking way too much again.
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posted April 26, 2004 01:59 AM        
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Yeah, but setting 'em on the loose end retards the timing and reduces lift at the valve by like well, almost nothing. And why WOULD synching the t/b's have anything to do with power psycho.


I agree Doug. I just wanted to here what their reasoning was.
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posted April 26, 2004 02:38 PM        
When Y2KZX12R questions something in this arena, you need to
rethink your position. From reading forums for several years, I have
yet to read anyone smarter on this type of subject! Much respect to
Y2KZX12R. Keep up the good work, we all benifit.

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posted April 26, 2004 02:43 PM        
Doesn't the intake cam already run 300 degrees of duration anyway?

Which brings me to my next question.

Variable valve timing - surely this is the next step - right?

We're already at the Ti valvetrain stage - what's next?

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posted April 26, 2004 03:52 PM        
VTEC.... you can keep it..
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posted April 26, 2004 04:20 PM        
I know the Interscleptors didn't "seem" ta benefit much from it but VTEC/VVTI or whatever ya wanna call it hasta be close - right?
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posted April 26, 2004 04:23 PM        
How bout pneumatic valves next?
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