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Rob Hughes


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 		posted April 09, 2004 08:33 PM        Edited By: Rob Hughes on 9 Apr 2004 21:35
TiForce ZX10 pics and dyno.













151.89 hp 76.06ft/lbs Stock SAE
162.16 hp 78.27ft/lbs Tiforce pipe only.

The industry standard is pretty much SAE correction factor,other dynos I have seen have been STD or not specified...there is a difference.

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Full Ti-tapered head pipes, perfect welds and fitment.
$1195 MSPR
Available in about 45 days.

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 		posted April 09, 2004 08:39 PM        
Interesting - How many miles were on that motor? Looking at the bike and rear tire, not a lot, I would bet...
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 		posted April 09, 2004 08:42 PM        
note to self.. DONT buy that bike
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Rob Hughes


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 		posted April 09, 2004 08:51 PM        
Fresh off the assembly line.....note the plastic still on the seat.
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 		posted April 09, 2004 08:51 PM        Edited By: fish_antlers on 9 Apr 2004 21:54
now.. since I've unpacked my own 10R... I can see that that's a freshly uncrated unit.. so... it's not gonna get shoved back in the crate after that dyno run, is it

maybe not as fresh as it was earlier ....


fresh off the assembly line like mine ?...


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Rob Hughes


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 		posted April 09, 2004 08:58 PM        Edited By: Rob Hughes on 9 Apr 2004 22:00
FYI here's a comparo to see the difference with the correcting factors...



Looks better huh? Same bike, same run...different correcting factor.
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Rob Hughes


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 		posted April 09, 2004 09:01 PM        
5hp at the push of a button....and no bottle in sight..lol
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Rob Hughes


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 		posted April 09, 2004 09:03 PM        
Fish, that might be the bike we used.........better get it on a dyno ASAP..lol
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 		posted April 09, 2004 09:04 PM        
doh!
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 		posted April 09, 2004 09:22 PM        
Don't you guys break in your bikes before zinging them to redline?
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TAFB


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 		posted April 09, 2004 09:37 PM        
Rob, is that with or without a pc3? will you have a map for a pc3 available?
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Rob Hughes


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 		posted April 09, 2004 09:43 PM        
We break them in on the dyno.

Nothing but the pipe....similar to a gsxr1K without a filter or pc3. They pick up 14-16hp all done up, 10 pipe only.
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 		posted April 09, 2004 09:51 PM        
rob, thx for the quick response. how does the ti-force compare to the arata? what are the differences/similarities?
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Erich


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 		posted April 09, 2004 09:59 PM        Edited By: Erich on 9 Apr 2004 23:00
Hey Rob,

When you say correcting factor, what are you switching to?

The original has SAE correction which is what I am used to, so what is number 2? Looks to be reverting to standard with no correction.

I know you probably get asked this all the time, but are they any plans for carbon cans in the future?
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TAFB


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 		posted April 09, 2004 10:06 PM        
i read on the arata website that they will have a "dry carbon" can mid-summer. not sure what that means.
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burgerking


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 		posted April 10, 2004 02:32 AM        
How many runs were done to break in the bike to get the standard reading?
Someone over here also did the breaking in of his ZX10R on the dyno.
He got 152 SAE HP at the 5th run and 160 SAE HP at the 37th run.
So would the difference between stock and the Ti-force pipe not be (partly)due to the breaking in effect?

Just wondering
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 		posted April 10, 2004 02:46 AM        
Man I'm lovin' that "after" curve. Both torque and power are about as linear as you can ask for.
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 		posted April 10, 2004 04:50 AM        
Nice little "spike" at the top of each of the piped graph when it bounces off the limiter... adds about 5hp to what it's really making.

Nice looking pipe
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Rob Hughes


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 		posted April 10, 2004 05:31 AM        
Erich-No correcting factor on the second graph but I posted it just to show you how dynos can be manipulated. The day these were done it wasn't a bad day but here's how the numbers work out: All rounded up or down to the nearest whole number.
None:157/78-167/80
SAE:152/76-162/78
DIN:157/78-167/81
EEC:152/76-162/78
STD:156/78-166/80
JIS:152/76-163/78

TAFB-I haven't seen the Arata up close and personal or seen a dyno sheet yet. Not a bad pipe but limited availability, just about any franchised dealer can sell you a TiForce, no problem.

BK-I believe they break it in and then run it till they get a bunch of repeatable results then they start. The power gains will be the same on a bike once has however many miles on her.

Matt...both graphs have the spike so it's a wash.
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 		posted April 10, 2004 06:02 AM        Edited By: CrotchRocket on 10 Apr 2004 07:04
Thats a nice pipe...

Joe does have a way with bikes!!!
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 		posted April 10, 2004 09:00 AM        
Rob,I thought you weren't working at Orient anymore?
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Rob Hughes


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 		posted April 10, 2004 07:01 PM        
Cow.....FOR Orient not AT Orient....it was a 70 mile commute each way, now it's just a part time thing doing some internet stuff and events and shows.
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 		posted April 11, 2004 07:47 AM        
I'd be interested in seeing how a full Muzzy or a full Akro compares..
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 		posted April 11, 2004 07:51 AM        
Rob, tell Joe and John we miss them over at Englishtown TopStreetBike...
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 		posted April 11, 2004 08:27 AM        
Rob,I see.I just asking because I called there for you one day.
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