posted April 02, 2004 09:22 AM
Edited By: Michael Lee on 2 Apr 2004 09:24
Thanks for sharing
You may have mentioned already, but what pads are ya going with?
posted April 02, 2004 05:28 PM
Thanks very much for the suspension figures.
I have been saying for some time that my impression was that the bike's suspension is set up for a 250lb rider based on its outrageous spring rates reaction to 170lbs. Your numbers seem to affirm my worst fears....regular sized riders will have a mandatory respring in store (though most may not even know any better or care). I know some said its for a 150 lb hyper fast guy, but having valved a few of those forks on the 03 1000, I didn't see that being likely.
Oh well, very cool for you big boys, finally a bike you can just ride with out it wallowing all over the place.
For those curious about the rear wheel weight. RRW weighed them in at 31.0 pounds. For reference they weighed in the front at 25.0 pounds. No indication of the scale or margin of error. The big surprise was the Honda had the lightest wheel set, 1.0 pounds less than the kwaker (1.5 less up front and .5 more in the rear). The zook posted the heftiest set with 3.5 lb more than the kwaker.
quote:Thanks very much for the suspension figures.
I have been saying for some time that my impression was that the bike's suspension is set up for a 250lb rider based on its outrageous spring rates reaction to 170lbs. Your numbers seem to affirm my worst fears....regular sized riders will have a mandatory respring in store (though most may not even know any better or care). I know some said its for a 150 lb hyper fast guy, but having valved a few of those forks on the 03 1000, I didn't see that being likely.
Oh well, very cool for you big boys, finally a bike you can just ride with out it wallowing all over the place.
For those curious about the rear wheel weight. RRW weighed them in at 31.0 pounds. For reference they weighed in the front at 25.0 pounds. No indication of the scale or margin of error. The big surprise was the Honda had the lightest wheel set, 1.0 pounds less than the kwaker (1.5 less up front and .5 more in the rear). The zook posted the heftiest set with 3.5 lb more than the kwaker.
I had my pre-load maxed out and dampning was probably about mid adjustment. A 170 lb rider could probably run front preload middle to minimum, and take a few turns off rear shock., to get desired sag.
posted April 03, 2004 12:53 AM
Do you recall what your front sag was prior to turning the preload up? If I remember right, you dont get more than 7mm of adjustment out of them, but my memory is pretty spotty
Out back, if it already had 12mm of static, then the static would be too much by the time you got to a reasonable amount of sag with a lighter rider and sacrifice a bit of geometry to get there. Current numbers you got pretty much say its a great race spring for you and riders in the weight range.
You do have to hand it to the manufacturers responding to the demographics.
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posted April 03, 2004 06:20 AM
Personally, I'm gonna go all the way through breakin before setting the sag. It's a lettle bit soft right now for my weight, but that's ok, not pushing it very hard at all right now. So, once I get the suspension sag set, then adjust the headlights, I'll be ready to go. Man, gotta tell ya, I did almost 100 miles yesterday, every little bit helps.
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posted April 03, 2004 08:11 AM
Edited By: C Dolan on 3 Apr 2004 08:12
quote:Do you recall what your front sag was prior to turning the preload up? If I remember right, you dont get more than 7mm of adjustment out of them, but my memory is pretty spotty
Out back, if it already had 12mm of static, then the static would be too much by the time you got to a reasonable amount of sag with a lighter rider and sacrifice a bit of geometry to get there. Current numbers you got pretty much say its a great race spring for you and riders in the weight range.
You do have to hand it to the manufacturers responding to the demographics.
Don't remember the prior sag adjustment. Adjuster was at mid adjustment, as most new bikes are. I think total adjustment from minimum to max is somewhere around 12 to 16 mm.
Probably best to just adjust rear for total sag, with rider , or 20 to 25 mm. There should still be a reasonable amount of static sag of less than total sag.
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