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Ninja Rider


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posted March 21, 2004 02:26 AM        
ZX 10 R against the rest

Hi, I'm a newbe here, but finding your forum very interesting I registered under the name Ninja Rider so I can post and reply to topics of interest.



BoldSeems that the 10R is delivering the goodsBold

Both Motorrad AND PS Magazine (track data) rated the bike first in their very extensive test. The results?

Fastest lap times on track

Highest torque and HP

Fastest acceleration

Highest Top speed

The two magazines are among the VERY FEW without prejudice towards/against any brand in particular as they buy most of the bikes they test and getting them straight out of the crate at the importer. Further proof of this is that they don't hesitate to condemn German made bikes if some failure or shortcoming shows in the tests

Ninja Rider

I've oredered one and hardly can wait

Greetz

Ed - "Ninja Rider"

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frEEk


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posted March 21, 2004 08:36 AM        
i know motorad, but which is PS Magazine?
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Zed


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posted March 21, 2004 09:00 AM        
I'll pick up on your point about them being two of the very few mags without prejudice...

I have just finished reading an article in the British "Bike" magazine, about whether the latest litre bikes are too fast for our roads. It commented on the power/handling aspects of the Fireblade and the ZX10R. Without reading too deep, the piece on the ZX10 had 15 negative points!! The Fireblade had - wait for it - - 2 bad points...

I will know first hand if this is a biased report, once I take delivery of my Green Machine...

Some things never change.
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Ninja Rider


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posted March 21, 2004 09:09 AM        
PS Magazine

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i know motorad, but which is PS Magazine?


It is the sister magazine of Motorrad, though operating on a separate basis.

"PS Das Sport-Motorrad Magazin" (full title) deals almost exclusively with sports bikes and sports oriented bikes.

Both of the aforementioned magazines conduct some of the most thourough and extensive bike tests by far. As Germany is the biggest bike market in Europe, they are very influential and when they point out certain problems even the big companies such as Honda take notice.


Greetz

N.R.



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Ninja Rider


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posted March 21, 2004 09:20 AM        
quote:
I'll pick up on your point about them being two of the very few mags without prejudice...

I have just finished reading an article in the British "Bike" magazine, about whether the latest litre bikes are too fast for our roads. It commented on the power/handling aspects of the Fireblade and the ZX10R. Without reading too deep, the piece on the ZX10 had 15 negative points!! The Fireblade had - wait for it - - 2 bad points...

I will know first hand if this is a biased report, once I take delivery of my Green Machine...

Some things never change.


I'm also a subscriber to Bike and I hardly ever saw them
give bad press to Honda bikes (even when other mags f.e. condemned the 2002 blade for being prone to tank slappers)

Lots of the mags speak the words of those who feed them

BTW congratz with yer new bike

N.R.
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posted March 21, 2004 09:55 AM        
Bike is the only UK mag I can think of that's sort-of panning the 10R. But, there's an interesting peice by two of the Bike test-riders, on a phone call - one from AMP, the other from Homestead (the press launches of the 1000RR and the 10R, respectively). The Honda rider was like 'hum, so-what', and the Kawi rider was - OMFG!.

I'll paste it here:

quote:
Martin Child: So? What's the ZX-10R got?

Ben Wilkens: Oh mate, up top it's got the lot. It hasn't got the bottom end of a GSX-R1000, but get past 4000rpm and it picks up. At 7000rpm it begins to really pull hard. I'm thinking, wow, this thing is fast. But between 10,000 and 13,000rpm it's just incredible - you're down the straights like a fighter, and holding on for grim death.

MC: Nice. The Blade could have done with that kind of kick.

BW: Doesn't it feel quick then?

MC: It doesn't feel like it's making 172 bhp at the crank as they claim for it. Out on the track it feels slow but you're actually lapping very fast - perfect for a race bike. But I want to feel like I'm working a bike, and the Blade doesn't give me that. It's almost like Honda have wiped all the emotion from riding a litre sportsbike.

BW: No danger of that here, the ZX-10R feels like a proper Kawasaki. It's raw and focused, and a really animated ride. And the noise in unbelievable. The exhaust and induction noise is just incredible, like an F1 car.

MC: Is it too lively?

BW: No, it's just got that edge that really agile bikes have. It handles like a 600, there's no steering damper, and it does like to wag its bars. You can really feel it when you land a wheelie. It's a good wheelie bike - nicely balanced, and with enough power to hoist 110mph wheelies in third - but if you don't land the front wheel straight it likes to slap. I had a lock-to-lock one that left me with no brakes for the next corner. It had forced the pistons back into the calipers.

MC: Bet that made your day. The Blade is incredibly good at not wheelying - unless you want it to, of course. It doesn't pick the front up coming out of the slow corners, and it won't slide, either. The traction is the best thing about the bike, the way it drives out of corners. There's so much grip it took all day to get close to the limit. The bike could take way more throttle than experience was telling me I could get away with.

BW: Sounds like you could turn it into a monster of a track bike. Was it cramped though? The ZX-10R feels really roomy.

MC: The riding position is compact. I never usually feel cramped on a road bike, but I felt a bit squeezed in at first until I got used to the riding position. The Blade has got down to the kind of dimesions - low bars, high pegs, narrow tank - that make people look and feel big on it. It feels smaller than last year's Blade.

BW: I recon the ZX-10R will be almost too much on the road. It reminds me of the first R1 - it's got that friskiness, that edge. And it is a case of experts only - a Direct Access course and two years on a CBR600 can't prepare you for this...

MC: I'll take two. The Blade just didn't get me fired up - I was admiring it rather than raving. I think on the road it will make going too fast too easy, but we only rode it on track. It's like a step up from seeing the bike at the NEC but two steps down from a full road test.

BW: I know what you mean. I can't wait to get them on the Bike Test Route.



Anyway, aside from that abberation, I find Brit magazines somewhat more honest in their bike appraisals. Just that most of the Brit mags are a bit lower-brow than I'm comfortable reading in, say, an airport.


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