DJONES
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posted March 20, 2003 01:12 PM
What should I expect? And how to get there!
What should I expect? And how to get there!
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Guys I would like some of your comments. Especially you guys who race every weekend. Mike, KC, Intra, anyyone else who wants to chime in.
I added several goodies to my bike for this years TXShootout. I would like to know what I should expect as far as time wise out of the bike and I really want to know how I should launch the bike with the extension and new gears. Here is what we have....
I am 5'10" 230
(team fat ass --- oh I mean team muscle ass)
The bike...
2000 ZX12, Muzzy Pipe, PCIII (good map), K&N's, Falicon Billet Clutch Hub, Brand new clutches, 17/48 gears, new chain, 2-7" extension pushed back to about 6 1/2", MPS air shifter, front straps, rear dog bone lowered, & Muzzy Fan. Maybe a few other things but nothing that will really affect the performance.
Last year with no extensions and stock gears with foot shift I could not really get to bike to better than a 10.40 @ 136 or so with 1.75- 1.85 ish 60 foots.
What type of numbers would/should I expect and how should I launch this bike?
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zrxdean
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posted March 20, 2003 03:26 PM
Hard to predict, everyone is different. With a good rider, maybe low to mid nines.
With an extra 6 inches, you should be able to leave much harder and get to full throttle before shifting into second. That should get you into the nines easy, even at your weight.
Folks would prolly say you need a billet clutch basket, and maybe more gear, like 17/51.
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MadMike
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posted March 20, 2003 04:31 PM
I would say to start you will run a 9.95, then by the end of that day you should run 9.8#'s and then with seat time and practice you will get down to the 9.50-9.60!
is your front lowered at all ? and is your seat drag cut?
Mad Mike
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INTRA
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posted March 20, 2003 10:50 PM
I think your gearing is good,your stretched,you have the basket(so no holding back out of the hole),your 230lbs,use the weight to your advantage,lean forward and air down alittle and that sucker will leave without any wheelie or traction problems.I weigh 190-95lbs now,and believe me,it's easier to find tracion and keep front ends down now then when I was 150lbs a few yrs ago.Just go full throttle quickly-and finnish each gear as high as possible,any short shift will kill your run.
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posted March 20, 2003 10:54 PM
Off topic: Yo DJ, is your avitar half of an upside-down skateboard or a guy benchin up 405? Just curious...
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DJONES
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posted March 21, 2003 05:16 AM
For the record I do have the Billet basket already. Caratered mine early last year.
And it is a bench press guy. Lifting is one of my hobbies. Currently bench around 500 and have benched over 550.
But anyways....
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zrxdean
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posted March 21, 2003 08:02 AM
Geezus criminy brother, 550? At only 230lbs? How tall are you, 5 feet?
Glad you have the basket.
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DJONES
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posted March 21, 2003 08:45 AM
 Edited By: MadMike on 21 Mar 2003 15:20
Hahahahaha. Not to get off the subject and get smacked by an admin but I am 5' 10" .
But to keep it on topic now you know why I need more gearing. To get my big butt moving down the track!
So 9.50's huh. HMMMMMMMM Kawachan I might just take you up on that offer next Saturday!
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kawachan
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posted March 21, 2003 11:58 AM
I'll try it out for you no problem!! Least I can do is make sure Iam at the starting line when you run and try to give you a few tips. How about bringing a camcorder and taping the runs so you can watch them over and over to critique yourself. I'll help you set your bike up too...at least as much as I can, anyway. See ya there!!
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MadMike
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posted March 21, 2003 03:14 PM
Hey charles that is my seceret about the video... guess I have told one to many people. LOL.... good job!! but that is lesson # 2
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MadMike
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posted March 21, 2003 03:22 PM
well fixed your picture for ya, geezz! dude you one big sombitch!!! I hope your on my side if we ever get into a bar fight!!!!!!
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kcadby
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posted March 21, 2003 04:24 PM
I'm not sayin...NOTHIN!!!
HE might hurt me 
Shit it hurts ME just lookin at you 
Lot of good info above...Video-GREAT IDEA...you can learn a lot from that...
We personaly have had GOOD "luck" with even shorter gearing than that...
We are at 17/51 an go through the 1/4mile in 5th gear...John at 210lb plus has been 9.50s and 6-teens in the 1/8...this gearing is PERFECT for us in the 1/8...we DO hit the limiter in 3rd gear right at the last stripe...but I've been MANY 5.90s at as high as 122mph...
I've learned to launch at a pretty low rpm now...between 3-4K (I don't watch the tach anymore) and hit the throttle hard and control the rpms (7,000+) and front wheel with the clutch...ALWAYS getting wide open in 1st gear...usualy at about 60-80ft...
Best thing to do is just practice your ass off (not that YOU could actually do that ) and watch your video-s if you have someone that can do that for you...
As stated above...shift at red-line (or a bit higher if you can without hitting the limiter) the tachs read HIGH on EVERY bike I've ever had on the dyno...usualy a freakin-thousand rpms at red-line...believe it or not!!!
Actually I got to run an Aprilia the outher day and it's tach was the closest I've ever seen at red-line...
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posted March 21, 2003 09:44 PM
Where's it gonna end? Everytime I get online I find a picture of my body posted with someone's head attached by photoshop or some procedure like that!!!!!
Dan
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DJONES
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posted March 22, 2003 04:34 PM
Good Idea. I got a new camera for my b-day. It does MPEG's as well. May have to check it out tomorrow when I go out to test and tune!
DJ
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kcadby
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posted March 22, 2003 06:26 PM
Practice...practice...practice...
After at about 50 runs...you will "notice things" MUCH more...
Rather than just trying to survive the run... 
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