hyperdriver
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posted November 23, 2011 03:10 AM
slappin bars on the zx14 got a few questions
installing a set of bars on the zx14
motor is stock, mods are Muzzy 421 exhaust, K&N filter, flies removed, -1 Vortex up front, MSD/SB6 ignition, MRE air shifter, PCV w/Jeffo map, Muzzy lowering links, 8 inch swing arm extensions, stock back sprocket, Mickey Thomsan 7 inch flat slick on the back rim
i want to launch this thing hard but the gearing is not there for the stock motor
what sprocket size would work best in the back, remember there is minus 1 up front already
keep in mind the Mickey Thomson slick is over an inch taller than the stock street tire
i am thinking a 48-50 tooth for the back, what do you think?
i will be running eighth mile most of the time
obviously i need a lockup, but i need to keep it super low budget (or i would use a slider)
what kind of lockup with what static spring and weight setup will work best with my low budget needs
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KZScott
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posted November 23, 2011 07:01 PM
we ran dads 12 with 1 down 10 up, bars and a flat slick for awhile
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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2000redrocket
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posted November 24, 2011 07:40 PM
ask mtc what the average total spring lbs seem to be. they will be able to tell you. i can not remember.i think around 200lbs would be safe to test. what do you think scott? it may slip a bit there but you will know if it is too lite when you can pin it and throw it. i bet on a 14 what ever lbs you need to hold around 8500 to 9500rpms till arms come it would be a good starting point. heavy is safer to keep from burning clutches up though.
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zxboy
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posted November 28, 2011 06:17 AM
You need to give a little more info.....How / where are the bars attached to the swingarm ?? How long is the wheel base and how long are the bars from rear axle to wheelie bar axle ?? If you can afford it.....a slider is THE way to go with a slick and bars !! Gear the crap out of it !! I'd go down one more in the front and run at least a 53 in the back. I've been running a ZX12 with bars for a while now...I'm geared 16/56 and it'll some times bump the rev limiter at the top of 6th as I cross the line. Oh and if you do gear high, make sure you add something that'll overide the 186 mph limiter because the bike will think it's going way faster than that
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biggmoinc
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posted November 30, 2011 01:02 PM
If ur tire is an inch taller I believe all u did when dropping 1 tooth in the front was bring ur rollout bout the same as stock, gearing calculator will show the exact speed change at a given rpm, I'd drop at least one more in the front and up 3-5 more on the back
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posted November 30, 2011 02:47 PM
edit, 2 down 10 up
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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hyperdriver
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posted December 04, 2011 05:43 AM
have not posted for a while sorry
notice the title slappin bars on blablabla
tough economic times has forced me to slow down with any bike "spending"
and as we know, you don't slap nothing on when dealing with your wheelie bars
it's more in depth, great question about where am i mounting the bars on the swing arm, what am i doing for a strut, is it it easily changed back to streetable, all these things have been considered by me and must be implemented
i need some time, some suggestions for a removable strut, i do have a few ideas and would like to hear yours, thanks
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hyperdriver
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posted December 04, 2011 05:51 AM
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If ur tire is an inch taller I believe all u did when dropping 1 tooth in the front was bring ur rollout bout the same as stock, gearing calculator will show the exact speed change at a given rpm, I'd drop at least one more in the front and up 3-5 more on the back
someone suggested call big Ryan shcnitz sounds like a good idea
cause we all know we hate speculating on gearing when your having to buy a bunch of sprockets to get the proper results for your particualr setup
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posted December 04, 2011 07:10 AM
want to buy a set?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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hyperdriver
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posted December 04, 2011 12:36 PM
thats nice, i already have a custom low seat on the bike
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posted December 04, 2011 12:40 PM
we switched to this setup, bars are collecting dust if youre interested, they are pingle
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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hyperdriver
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posted December 06, 2011 06:04 AM
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we switched to this setup, bars are collecting dust if youre interested, they are pingle
what kind of short time you getting with your setup?
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posted December 06, 2011 07:40 AM
best is a 1.37, but it has a lot more in it
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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hyperdriver
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posted December 06, 2011 04:37 PM
the thing is i am 50 years old, i am tired of holding down the front end
i want to hit the bars hard and let the front end fly without fighting it
those bars you have, what length are they?
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posted December 06, 2011 08:11 PM
ill measure and get back to you.
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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