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KZScott

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posted November 17, 2011 03:38 PM

T61

hmmm, where am I going to stick this bad boy?

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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

2000redrocket

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posted November 17, 2011 06:20 PM

well i am wondering if a bike engine has enough to spinn it below 9000rpms LOL. that looks as big as my jetta diesel turbo. though it was only 70hp or so.....

KZScott

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posted November 17, 2011 07:31 PM

its not that much bigger than the one im using. the turbine is bigger on this, but its also devided where the one on my bike is not, so a properly designed header should help it spool.
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

2000redrocket

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posted November 17, 2011 07:38 PM

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posted November 19, 2011 01:33 PM

Gee Scottie what are you putting that on?I have a brand new turbosmart wastegate never mounted and a innovative msbc-1 electronic boost controller if someone is looking for one.The turbosmart is a 38 with 7 pound spring in it.

KZScott

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posted November 19, 2011 06:27 PM

oh something fast that needs to be faster

I know someone that might be interested in it
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

KZScott

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posted January 05, 2012 08:30 PM

starting the new setup. no cnc here, just the basics

ZRXDean

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posted January 06, 2012 08:35 AM

I suggest you open up the exhaust ports a little bit.

KZScott

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posted January 06, 2012 08:57 AM

1/8 wont do it???
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

harryzx-12

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posted January 07, 2012 03:22 PM

I have a T-66 on my turbobusa and it spins up just fine!
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ZRXDean

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posted January 07, 2012 07:51 PM

Yep, the 62mm on my ZX10 worked fine too. Bill Warner's bike has a HUUUUUUGE compressor.

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posted January 07, 2012 11:34 PM

I knew I wasnt the only crazy one, or even the worst of the bunch lol

sometimes its nice having junked cases, blocks, heads.... it wasnt nice getting them, but they come in handy. I mocked up the 61 on the bike, put it in a slightly different location than the 60-1, then put my jig on a "mock up" motor

T3 divided flange. going to be ported a little and the turbo will be matched

304 SS 1.25 shed 10 pipe. much nicer to work with than the 1.5 that I made the last one from. tighter radius's ect. the ID of this stuff is actually 1.45in and matches the exhaust gasket very well. the 1.5 has an ID of 1.65in and is a little overkill.

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posted January 11, 2012 08:40 PM

Making some progress. heres the big boy hanging/sitting where its going to be living this yr

while my first header worked pretty well, Im sure version 2.0 is going to work much better, I learned a lot building my first one.

made this bolt on jig so if I ever need to copy this I can easily. I also marked out an extra header flange

spotting everything with 3/32 308 rods. old school Arc welder. it will be finished by a pro with a Tig

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posted January 12, 2012 10:27 AM

more progress

the dents are for a little more room around the bolts in the turbo flange. its tight

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posted January 12, 2012 11:18 AM

Nice job, man you got more patients than me. You will be sucessful, you will have earned it , the Hard way!!, A self made man, Passionate, Stick to itness, Can Do atitude , self motivated. Not many like you out there,

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posted January 12, 2012 03:00 PM

Thank you

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posted January 12, 2012 09:42 PM

Edited By: KZScott on 13 Jan 2012 05:44

I think version 2.0 is going to work a little better than the original

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posted January 14, 2012 05:14 PM

time to start the gate piping and exh. had a pro do a little tig today (and I need to get some bolts....)

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posted January 17, 2012 05:35 AM

Edited By: KZScott on 17 Jan 2012 14:06

just barely enough room for the K&N air filter. the rubber touches the Muzzy oil filter relocator

able to fit a full rad with it shimmed out 3/4 in. could have made the turbo flange a little tighter to the block for less shimming but wanted to be sure i would have enough room for dual piping for the gate. next time...
i can get my finger between the fender and rad with it lowered this far. going to trim the fender for more room

1/8-3/16 clearance. going to wrap the header to minimize heat transfer

3 in exhaust tapered down to 2 3/8 to fit the TiWinder meg. going to redo the taper to make it longer/more gradual.

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posted January 17, 2012 09:34 PM

redid the tapered section. made a longer cone and this time asymmetrical to maximize ground clearance

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posted January 18, 2012 11:40 PM

i had originally planned on coming off the header, but this is what i finally ended up going with. several designs later....

sch 10 pipe for the main tube to support the big gate and 16 gauge for the other side of the divided housing.

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posted January 19, 2012 01:45 PM

Nice

Had you thought about pairing 1&4 to take more advantage of the twin scroll housing ??

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posted January 20, 2012 08:07 AM

Edited By: KZScott on 20 Jan 2012 16:13

thanks. its crossed my mind, but I thought that was more of a LSR design? I see that on the RCC stuff thats hitting the mile or longer. Looking at the NLR stuff thats drag oriented, I see the 1-2 and 3-4 pairing. Seb made a post that says it helps spool up, which is more important on the line, than peak hp. while I do plan on hitting LSR events eventually, the main focus is drag racing.

Seb talking about a manifold very very similar to his design on another board:

he finally figured out my manifold design had reason behind it LOL!!!! COPY CAT

Lower backpressure, previous fired cylinder creates a scavange effect on the next.

No cross talk between cylinders, pulse energy is directed straight into turbine wheel.

since it reduces backpressure compared to the manifold you have it may be difficult to keep the boost in check at lower levels.
The pulses travel straight down in to the scroll and hit the turbine wheel with NO intereference of other cylinders firing directly into it.
Most of the manifolds on the market all the cylinders hit eachother above the turbo flange. ( think of it as 4 rivers meeting at one point) . You will have alot of turbulence and chaos. This cause backpressure as its hard to evacuate this into the turbine housing quickly. It does make it easier to wastegate as this backpressure is hanging around and has no problem going out the gate when asked to. My manifold does not allow the cylinders to meet until inside the and below the turbine flange. Good for efficiency bad for wastegating low boostlevels if gate is not prepped correctly. Spool up will increase with my manifold as well.

Its a double edged sword you see
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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posted January 20, 2012 03:03 PM

going to do a little extra welding in here to smooth out the transition in the corner