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smokinZX14


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posted November 25, 2011 12:29 PM        Edited By: smokinZX14 on 25 Nov 2011 20:30
You guys will get a kick out of this video .. Busa guys think this bike is stock and beats Rickys 9.31@ 149 ... Look at the bike , it is lowered , strapped and is sitting at 62 inch or longer wheel base ...Look how far the tire sticks out passed the tail . But It does have stock exhaust .lol.. Rickys 9.31 was lowered and strapped BUT stock wheel base .. I guess Busas come with 62 inch wheel base these days ..lol.


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smokinZX14


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posted November 25, 2011 12:34 PM        Edited By: smokinZX14 on 25 Nov 2011 20:38
I little too long to hook .. Same bike..


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JZX


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posted November 25, 2011 12:52 PM        
My 12 stock wheelbase with a pipe, no pc went 9.44@150+ and my weight was 185+ with gear. I would crush this guy any time any day $$$$


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03SGBUSA


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posted November 25, 2011 01:19 PM        
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Told you ....lol..lol....


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I'm done with this troll, he is all played out ... Have a nice day , Merry Xmas and happy new year busa boy.


peace!!!

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getting no where...time to go ride my SLOW zx14.. 150 miles yesterday.. probably 150 miles today..


I didnt call zx14's slow

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Or check dragbike.com and see the winners from the real street class. Brandon took out everyone including rickey g.

People do get better you know!


some how or another i think your full of shit again http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/articlefiles/2011_11_E_RST.html brandon??????
DIDN'T GET OUT OF 1ST ROUND



My bad I meant street et
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/articlefiles/2011_11_E_SET_SUN.html


his real street busa's trans signed off!!

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This spring we may come to his home track and see how deep his dad's pockets are.


im sure they would welcome you with open arms

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I have to ask you this 03SGBUSA, do you have anything you would like to race for $$$$? I know you are cheerleading for this kid, who doesn't need your help btw. But let's talk about you and what you have to bring to the table.


sir you know what I have. Not much challenge to you . If i did I would be down!! You have been in the game longer then me so natural you have more done then I do. Maybe sometime in the future

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You had to spray a stretched busa to go 9.3's???


Yep!! Im sure since you a motorcycle guy you know that really anything after the 330 doesnt make much et change. And the bike was so short that it just wanted to wheelie. It was also my first time down the track on dope.

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Let's do something-where you @?


I could probably set u up with some folks.


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The motor is coming out this weekend because I have a Bob Carpenter head,web cams and a sidewinder we are installing. Along with a nano kit and a NLR nitrous controller





HMMMM................knows Carpenter, hates Zx 14's, loves Busa's and BMW's and says "WE" are installing a Bob Carpenter head,web cams and a sidewinder WE are installing. ...............Looks like the Vmax troll is using another sock puppet


We being my best friend and tuner. Who hates ZX14'S? I havent said that anywhere.....


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What did Rickey Gadson call you again Art?................oh yeah he called you an ASSHOLE!!


lost me there



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Let me see if I have this right according to the troll.............after 4 years Kawasaki built a new almost 100cc bigger ZX 14R priced at almost 15K that makes 20 more horsepower than a Busa just to be SLOWER than a GEN 2 BUSA............so Suzuki could spend R&D money to build a NEW Bigger faster Busa to be faster than a bike "the troll CLAIMS" the old Busa is ALLREADY faster than


You cant make up shit this inbred stupid..............RUN FOREST RUN!!!!!!!


Yes the troll claims the new zx14r is a joke!! overpriced,ugly as fxck joke!! with weak ass fake videos trying to promote a joke. Wow zx14r is such a badass they needed 1430cc to take on a 1340cc bike!! lol!! its like the 68-70' guys talking shit about going fast to the 60' guys. YEP I SAID ALL THAT!!!


no I really didnt. Everyone here is getting their feelings hurt and making shit up.

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You guys will get a kick out of this video .. Busa guys think this bike is stock and beats Rickys 9.31@ 149 ... Look at the bike , it is lowered , strapped and is sitting at 62 inch or longer wheel base ...Look how far the tire sticks out passed the tail . But It does have stock exhaust .lol.. Rickys 9.31 was lowered and strapped BUT stock wheel base .. I guess Busas come with 62 inch wheel base these days ..lol.





damn smokin you should just leave the party. You keep trying to dig up bullshit!! Maybe if you would read alittle you would see where that video was posted I even questioned the OP about the wheel base.

You can also see that bike is white. Brandons is not!! I have never seen that bike











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Wheelie


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posted November 25, 2011 01:24 PM        
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Told you ....lol..lol....


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I'm done with this troll, he is all played out ... Have a nice day , Merry Xmas and happy new year busa boy.


peace!!!

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getting no where...time to go ride my SLOW zx14.. 150 miles yesterday.. probably 150 miles today..


I didnt call zx14's slow

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Or check dragbike.com and see the winners from the real street class. Brandon took out everyone including rickey g.

People do get better you know!


some how or another i think your full of shit again http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/articlefiles/2011_11_E_RST.html brandon??????
DIDN'T GET OUT OF 1ST ROUND



My bad I meant street et
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/articlefiles/2011_11_E_SET_SUN.html


his real street busa's trans signed off!!

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This spring we may come to his home track and see how deep his dad's pockets are.


im sure they would welcome you with open arms

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I have to ask you this 03SGBUSA, do you have anything you would like to race for $$$$? I know you are cheerleading for this kid, who doesn't need your help btw. But let's talk about you and what you have to bring to the table.


sir you know what I have. Not much challenge to you . If i did I would be down!! You have been in the game longer then me so natural you have more done then I do. Maybe sometime in the future

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You had to spray a stretched busa to go 9.3's???


Yep!! Im sure since you a motorcycle guy you know that really anything after the 330 doesnt make much et change. And the bike was so short that it just wanted to wheelie. It was also my first time down the track on dope.

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Let's do something-where you @?


I could probably set u up with some folks.


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The motor is coming out this weekend because I have a Bob Carpenter head,web cams and a sidewinder we are installing. Along with a nano kit and a NLR nitrous controller





HMMMM................knows Carpenter, hates Zx 14's, loves Busa's and BMW's and says "WE" are installing a Bob Carpenter head,web cams and a sidewinder WE are installing. ...............Looks like the Vmax troll is using another sock puppet


We being my best friend and tuner. Who hates ZX14'S? I havent said that anywhere.....


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What did Rickey Gadson call you again Art?................oh yeah he called you an ASSHOLE!!


lost me there



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Let me see if I have this right according to the troll.............after 4 years Kawasaki built a new almost 100cc bigger ZX 14R priced at almost 15K that makes 20 more horsepower than a Busa just to be SLOWER than a GEN 2 BUSA............so Suzuki could spend R&D money to build a NEW Bigger faster Busa to be faster than a bike "the troll CLAIMS" the old Busa is ALLREADY faster than


You cant make up shit this inbred stupid..............RUN FOREST RUN!!!!!!!


Yes the troll claims the new zx14r is a joke!! overpriced,ugly as fxck joke!! with weak ass fake videos trying to promote a joke. Wow zx14r is such a badass they needed 1430cc to take on a 1340cc bike!! lol!! its like the 68-70' guys talking shit about going fast to the 60' guys. YEP I SAID ALL THAT!!!


no I really didnt. Everyone here is getting their feelings hurt and making shit up.

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You guys will get a kick out of this video .. Busa guys think this bike is stock and beats Rickys 9.31@ 149 ... Look at the bike , it is lowered , strapped and is sitting at 62 inch or longer wheel base ...Look how far the tire sticks out passed the tail . But It does have stock exhaust .lol.. Rickys 9.31 was lowered and strapped BUT stock wheel base .. I guess Busas come with 62 inch wheel base these days ..lol.





damn smokin you should just leave the party. You keep trying to dig up bullshit!! Maybe if you would read alittle you would see where that video was posted I even questioned the OP about the wheel base.

You can also see that bike is white. Brandons is not!! I have never seen that bike











kurt is the best HEHE

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JZX


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posted November 25, 2011 01:40 PM        
Well, does taking an 8 year break and returning to drag racing count for anything? I bought a 6000$ dollar 5 year old bike for my return to drag racing and a fused throttle wrist and took it into the 8's in a few short months. That should put us about even right??
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1badzx12r


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posted November 25, 2011 01:44 PM        
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Or check dragbike.com and see the winners from the real street class. Brandon took out everyone including rickey g.

People do get better you know!


some how or another i think your full of shit again http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/articlefiles/2011_11_E_RST.html brandon??????
DIDN'T GET OUT OF 1ST ROUND
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My bad I meant street et
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/articlefiles/2011_11_E_SET_SUN.html


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his real street busa's trans signed off!!


had to be rider error.. cause we all know busa's don't break ..

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Big_T112


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posted November 25, 2011 02:13 PM        
They all break if you run them enough, the Busa is just the cheapest one to build. I want one of those new 14R's The blue one. It is sweet! I wonder if they will take The Ultra Classic on trade?
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03SGBUSA


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posted November 25, 2011 02:23 PM        Edited By: 03SGBUSA on 25 Nov 2011 22:26
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Well, does taking an 8 year break and returning to drag racing count for anything? I bought a 6000$ dollar 5 year old bike for my return to drag racing and a fused throttle wrist and took it into the 8's in a few short months.


MMMMMMM 8 year break from how many years of racing bikes? vs 0 years racing bikes. Been on it since may of this year bro!! Even though my react have been crazy fast and consistent it still wont cover the et spread we have.....and that assuming you cant cut a light.


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That should put us about even right??



Im not sure what your question is here?


I trying to figure out how we go from talking about what the new zx14r does vs a gen 2 busa. too people wanting to run their gen 1 zx14 againest my gen 1 busa?

I mean seriously what are you thinking would happen? Id run your 8 sec bike with my 9 sec bike and then be all " yeah the new zx14r is clearly faster then the gen 2"...

How about I set you up with one of my tuners busas since its faster then mine!! Im sure after he crushed you that your mind would be changed about the new zx14r. {yes im sure we all know someone with a faster bike}

I mean really!!! This is not a grudge thread.



Rickey even claims the info on the video is bogus. I agree!!!

facts:

rickey cant ride a busa. even he says so
other rider not much better
gen 2's have posted faster stock et/mph
gen's 2 have posted higher dyno numbers

at least compare apples to apples!!! I mean when they have jockey challenge they make schnitz wear a weight suit.

yall can argue whatever about brandon running the times on the gen 2.
weight = 20lbs difference suited to suited! not a deal breaker
skill = people here say he doesnt have the skills
mods= mr12 in the zx14r vs u4.4 in the gen 2

Bottomline even if the gen2 ran the same times its still up on the zx14r. Smaller motor.



I would love to see rickey and brandon square off on a gen 2 and a zx14r both in stock form. Wouldnt be that bogus video that got posted up!!!




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Wheelie


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posted November 25, 2011 02:28 PM        
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Well, does taking an 8 year break and returning to drag racing count for anything? I bought a 6000$ dollar 5 year old bike for my return to drag racing and a fused throttle wrist and took it into the 8's in a few short months.


MMMMMMM 8 year break from how many years of racing bikes? vs 0 years racing bikes. Been on it since may of this year bro!! Even though my react have been crazy fast and consistent it still wont cover the et spread we have.....and that assuming you cant cut a light.


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That should put us about even right??



Im not sure what your question is here?


I trying to figure out how we go from talking about what the new zx14r does vs a gen 2 busa. too people wanting to run their gen 1 zx14 againest my gen 1 busa?

I mean seriously what are you thinking would happen? Id run your 8 sec bike with my 9 sec bike and then be all " yeah the new zx14r is clearly faster then the gen 2"...

How about I set you up with one of my tuners busas since its faster then mine!! Im sure after he crushed you that your mind would be changed about the new zx14r. {yes im sure we all know someone with a faster bike}

I mean really!!! This is not a grudge thread.



Rickey even claims the info on the video is bogus. I agree!!!

facts:

rickey cant ride a busa. even he says so
other rider not much better
gen 2's have posted faster stock et/mph
gen's 2 have posted higher dyno numbers

at least compare apples to apples!!! I mean when they have jockey challenge they make schnitz wear a weight suit.

yall can argue whatever about brandon running the times on the gen 2.
weight = 20lbs difference suited to suited! not a deal breaker
skill = people here say he doesnt have the skills
mods= mr12 in the zx14r vs u4.4 in the gen 2

Bottomline even if the gen2 ran the same times its still up on the zx14r. Smaller motor.



I would love to see rickey and brandon square off on a gen 2 and a zx14r both in stock form. Wouldnt be that bogus video that got posted up!!!




Brandon really appreciates you,

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dakota9498


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posted November 25, 2011 02:35 PM        
That's what I love about Busa riders, it is never what they can do, but what a friend can do or some guy at the track can do.
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kaw now


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posted November 25, 2011 02:47 PM        
03SGBUSA do you have a point to your endless blather. Do you really think Kawi would advertise a new a bike this size etc as the fastest production bike but really mean that is unless a Busa has a really good rider that's what we really meant. Just cough up yhe dough and get one after all an 03 really must have lost some luster.
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03SGBUSA


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posted November 25, 2011 02:48 PM        
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Brandon really appreciates you,

wee


do you have the skills of rickey,jeremy,ryan and brandon?

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That's what I love about Busa riders, it is never what they can do, but what a friend can do or some guy at the track can do.


Lol another weak ass busa remark!!

Bro you should really watch some some grudge racing videos!! All motorcycle racing is about what someone with more skill can do...............


rick is the zx14 god yet who's piloting this one LOL!!
http://youtu.be/zZmvSrCLgCo

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03SGBUSA


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posted November 25, 2011 02:50 PM        
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03SGBUSA do you have a point to your endless blather. Do you really think Kawi would advertise a new a bike this size etc as the fastest production bike but really mean that is unless a Busa has a really good rider that's what we really meant. Just cough up yhe dough and get one after all an 03 really must have lost some luster.


I think if the bike is that sick!!! then they would have gonna out of their way to prove that a busa cant beat it!!


Too ugly bro!!! too freaking ugly!!! if the new 14 looked like the old 12 maybe.

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ZX14Mike


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posted November 25, 2011 02:51 PM        
How bout YOU set it up since you seem to be Brandon's agent or else you just like lickin his balls all day!!!!


But for the guy who CLAIMS to have all the FACTS its pretty damn funny that your CLAIMING to KNOW that a Gen 2 Busa is faster than the new ZX 14R when the facts are...... so far there has only been 1 race so far no one really has much seat time on the new ZX 14R........the there are no real aftermarket performance bolt ons developed specifically for the 14R yet and pretty much no one has a production 14R and has taken it to the track yet..........your basing all your assumptions on on a preproduction model that RG raced with little to any seat time................How bout you shoot off your mouth and CLAIM the Gen 2 Busa is faster when there are hundreds of verifiable results to back up that big fat mouth!!!

Secondly its also pretty silly to Claim Kawasaki after 4 years designed a new ZX 14R as its flagship to be slower than a 4 year old Gen 2 Busa............so far the 14R has been reported to have 20 more HP than a Gen 2 Busa..........please enlighten us how 20 extra HP makes a bike slower???

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posted November 25, 2011 02:53 PM        
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Brandon really appreciates you,

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do you have the skills of rickey,jeremy,ryan and brandon?

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you are doing what you do best, keep up the good work.

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ZX14Mike


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posted November 25, 2011 02:54 PM        
Yeah Kawasaki spent all that R&D to design a new bike to be slower than a BUSA...........then decided to price it at 15K..............thats the story this guy is trying to sell.....................BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!


You might have better luck selling that BS on a Busa site troll!!!



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ZX14Mike


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posted November 25, 2011 03:00 PM        
After 1 friggin race of a SWB bike RG had no seat time on this guy is trying to say the ZX 14 is slower than a Gen 2 Busa because he's seen modded Gen 2 Busa's with Jockey's go faster on different days and different tracks.


How bout we wait till we see lots of production ZX 14R's match up against Gen 2 Busa's on the same track same day before we go shooting off our mouths making silly claims.

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shawnski


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posted November 25, 2011 03:04 PM        Edited By: shawnski on 25 Nov 2011 23:37
ok.. i am back form 165 miles riding today.. great day.. great ride... i am looking here to see what i have been missing the last few hrs and it is still the same o shit...lol
03sgbusa: it is the fact that zx14r is faster than gen2 busa.. you just have live with it for a long time!!
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posted November 25, 2011 03:09 PM        Edited By: shawnski on 25 Nov 2011 23:38
ok.. i am back form 165 miles riding today.. great day.. great ride... i am looking here to see what i have been missing the last few hrs and it is still the same o shit...lol
03sgbusa: it is the fact that zx14r is faster than gen2 busa.. you just have to live with it for a long time!!
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ZX14Mike


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posted November 25, 2011 03:16 PM        
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That's what I love about Busa riders, it is never what they can do, but what a friend can do or some guy at the track can do.



Yeah kinda like some snot nosed kid sayin my dad can beat up your dad

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03SGBUSA


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posted November 25, 2011 03:36 PM        Edited By: 03SGBUSA on 25 Nov 2011 23:42
yall keep living the dream!!!

since zx14mike got it all figured out!! yeah mike maybe do alittle more research. He rode the one in vegas and roaring toyz one that brock put the zx10 pc,modded pipe and mr12 on. LOL!!


Yeah just another busa owner that doesnt no what he is talking about lol!! let me go find my dad for some tissue lol!!

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posted November 25, 2011 03:40 PM        
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yall keep living the dream!!!
we are living it, you need to wake up from your dream lol

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shawnski


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posted November 25, 2011 03:43 PM        
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yall keep living the dream!!!

since zx14mike got it all figured out!! yeah mike maybe do alittle more research. He rode the one in vegas and roaring toyz one that brock put the zx10 pc,modded pipe and mr12 on. LOL!!


Yeah just another busa owner that doesnt no what he is talking about lol!! let me go find my dad for some tissue lol!!



go enjoy riding your busa man.. it is ok.. it is not the end of the world!!
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JZX


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posted November 25, 2011 03:43 PM        
The point I am making is if you don' t have the skills or experience to lay down the numbers, you damn sure don' t have the intelligance to post about these motorcycles when it comes to drag racing.

Your mouth is running- but your bike isn't..

Something to think about..
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