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posted October 26, 2011 11:52 AM
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where's the real birth certificate ?
OMFG dude, get with the times. Read up on it, the explanation for the whole "it's photoshop" thing is simple (just stupid).
If yer gonna criticize, at least do it on valid points.
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posted October 26, 2011 12:48 PM
Attn all you sheep, y'all are brainwashed, but you can't see it. LOL
Vote Ron Paul and give it back to the people damnit!
Now let's talk about motorcycles
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posted October 26, 2011 02:25 PM
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Now let's talk about motorcycles
until they get them on the streets its just plain stupid to even talk about the 2012 zx14R
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posted October 26, 2011 03:22 PM
I am still waiting to see one of the 200hp ZX10s
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posted October 26, 2011 04:04 PM
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I am still waiting to see one of the 200hp ZX10s
What about the BMWs...
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posted October 26, 2011 05:47 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 27 Oct 2011 02:09
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I am still waiting to see one of the 200hp ZX10s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=8c0QYvb3IRo
you got to uncork it
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ecu mode
shock
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gearing
god knows what else..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3pM0hKvQWw&feature=related
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posted November 23, 2011 06:40 PM
Edited By: 03SGBUSA on 24 Nov 2011 02:51
I owe a gen1 Hayabusa and look at whatever other bikes run as just plain info.
I listen to gsxr1000 owners talk smack like running a gen1 busa is a apples to apples race. Nevermind the fact that thanks to technology the 1000 makes the same rearwheel stock a gen1 one does and weighs 100lbs less.
I listen to gen 2 busa guys compare what they run with simply boltons vs what my does with the same mods. Its like they dont have 1340cc vs 1299cc. Or 9 year newer tech. Once again not apples to apples
What I find is bullshxt is the ZX14R vegas video. Even rickey claims they didnt get all the correct info for the video. His quickest runs on either bike. But aside from that why didnt they putting someone more familiar with a busa to get et's... You know automatically busas owners will call bs on that. Even Rickey stated he aint been on one in many moons. But he knows the in's and out's on a zx14 and every other kawa product out there.
Rickey went a 9.3@149 on the zx14r stock with a strap and lowered. then a 8.99 on one with pipe,tune and gas. We have a local rider named "brandon michnan" that has the same mods on his gen2 busa minus the gas that has gone 8.8's@157. The same kid went a 9.47@147 on a 08 gen 2 with no mods {stock height and no strap}
Mind you this is on a bike that makes much lower numbers,has a smaller displacement and 4 year old technology.
Im not hating on the zx14r. Its newer,more technology,larger motor with Im sure better head and cams for the larger cc's. From looking at the facts I wont be beating my chest seeing how it really didnt slaughter the busa with all the new stuff. I would love to see rickey on a new zx14r vs brandon michnan on a gen2. Stock to stock!!! now that would be a commercial!!
Hell I watched the kid take my best friends bone stock 05 gen1 with no mods and run a 9.96@141.8 in 15-20 mph crosswinds. I ran 9.5's@142 early the same night. The cold front moved in with the crosswinds. My times dropped to 9.7's@138. I bet he would have gone 9.7's easliy at 144
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posted November 23, 2011 06:49 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 24 Nov 2011 02:51
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I owe a gen1 Hayabusa and look at whatever other bikes run as just plain info.
I listen to gsxr1000 owners talk smack like running a gen1 busa is a apples to apples race. Nevermind the fact that thanks to technology the 1000 makes the same rearwheel stock a gen1 one does and weighs 100lbs less.
I listen to gen 2 busa guys compare what they run with simply boltons vs what I do like they dont have 1340cc vs 1299cc. Once again not apples to apples
What I find is bullshxt is the ZX14R vegas video. Even rickey claims they didnt get all the correct info for the video. His quickest runs on either bike. But aside from that pulling someone more familiar with a busa aka clutch whatever... Even Rickey stated he aint been on one in many moons. But he knows the in's and out's on a zx14. Honestly on any other kawa product....
Rickey went a 9.3@149 on the zx14r stock and a 8.99 on one with pipe,tune and gas. We have a local rider named "brandon michnan" that has the same mods on his gen2 busa minus the gas that has gone 8.8's@157. The same kid went a 9.47@147 on a 08 gen 2 with no mods.
Mind you this is on a bike that makes much lower numbers,has a smaller displacement and 4 year old technology.
Im not hating on the zx14r. Its newer,more technology,larger motor with Im sure better head and cams for the larger cc's. From looking at the facts I wont be beating my chest seeing how it really didnt slaughter the busa with all the new stuff. I would love to see rickey on a new zx14r vs brandon michnan on a gen2. Stock to stock!!! now that would be a commercial!!
Really you want a ( Ricky G ) 175 pound rider to race your 120 jocky ? Please .. Your 169 HP stock Gen 2 Busa is going to be no match for the new ZX14R with 191 stock HP .. Put 120 pound JT on the zx14r and your jocky will get dragged all the way down the 1320 ..
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03SGBUSA
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posted November 23, 2011 08:02 PM
Edited By: 03SGBUSA on 24 Nov 2011 04:19
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Really you want a ( Ricky G ) 175 pound rider to race your 120 jocky ?
the kid is not 120lbs. Thats some serious exaggeration. Brandon suited is 155lb to rickey's 175lbs.
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Please .. Your 169 HP stock Gen 2 Busa is going to be no match for the new ZX14R with 191 stock HP ..
You do know the new zx14r is heavier then the old one by a decent amount. While it does have more hp it also has more weight. Plus not all bikes dyno the same. I just saw a stock gen 1 put down 161whp the other day. I have also seen stockers make 148-153whp. I have seen gen 2's make 171-190whp in stock form.
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Put 120 pound JT on the zx14r and your jocky will get dragged all the way down the 1320 ..[/QUOTE]
Put JT on a hayabusa watch the zx14r get yanked!!
Bottomline is different riders on either bike could have a different outcome. The gen 2 has knocked down equal numbers to the zx14r. Its easy to throw a kawa pro rider on a bike he knows like tha back of his hand and run good times. Then put him on a bike he doesnt know and say WOW!! look at the difference!! Put a busa rider on the busa!! While the gen 2 is not 1430cc it will still hold its own!! Equal the playing field with a 1441 busa and see the outcome. Apples to apples races!!
here are some other stock gen 2 dyno numbers
Rickey's zx14r pass!! pipe,tune,gas,lowered and strapped
Brandons 08 gen2 passes!! pipe,tune,pump gas,lowered and strapped
You could argue the weight difference........but you could also argue the gas difference
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posted November 23, 2011 08:20 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 24 Nov 2011 04:21
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Really you want a ( Ricky G ) 175 pound rider to race your 120 jocky ?
the kid is not 120lbs. Thats some serious exaggeration. Brandon suited is 155lb to rickey's 175lbs.
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Please .. Your 169 HP stock Gen 2 Busa is going to be no match for the new ZX14R with 191 stock HP ..
You do know the new zx14r is heavier then the old one by a decent amount. While it does have more hp it also has more weight. Plus not all bikes dyno the same. I just saw a stock gen 1 put down 161whp the other day. I have also seen stockers make 148-153whp. I have seen gen 2's make 171-190whp in stock form.
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Put 120 pound JT on the zx14r and your jocky will get dragged all the way down the 1320 ..[/QUOTE]
Put JT on a hayabusa watch the zx14r get yanked!!
Bottomline is different riders on either bike could have a different outcome. The gen 2 has knocked down equal numbers to the zx14r. Its easy to throw a kawa pro rider on a bike he knows like tha back of his hand and run good times. Then put him on a bike he doesnt know and say WOW!! look at the difference!! Put a busa rider on the busa!! While the gen 2 is not 1430cc it will still hold its own!! Equal the playing field with a 1441 busa and see the outcome. Apples to apples races!!
here are some other stock gen 2 dyno numbers
Your dyno charts mean nothing ... The chart I posted is same day same dyno , 2011 Busa and a 2012 ZX14R both stock .. Gen 1 zx14s dyno right at 162 163 on the same dyno and that is right on the money with my dyno .. The test done back to back shows the HP difference between the two bikes .. A lot of Busa owners jump ship and got a zx14 when the zx14 came out.. A lot more are going to jump ship and get the new ZX14R ... You are welcome to join us ..
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posted November 23, 2011 09:04 PM
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Really you want a ( Ricky G ) 175 pound rider to race your 120 jocky ?
the kid is not 120lbs. Thats some serious exaggeration. Brandon suited is 155lb to rickey's 175lbs.
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Please .. Your 169 HP stock Gen 2 Busa is going to be no match for the new ZX14R with 191 stock HP ..
You do know the new zx14r is heavier then the old one by a decent amount. While it does have more hp it also has more weight. Plus not all bikes dyno the same. I just saw a stock gen 1 put down 161whp the other day. I have also seen stockers make 148-153whp. I have seen gen 2's make 171-190whp in stock form.
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Put 120 pound JT on the zx14r and your jocky will get dragged all the way down the 1320 ..[/QUOTE]
Put JT on a hayabusa watch the zx14r get yanked!!
Bottomline is different riders on either bike could have a different outcome. The gen 2 has knocked down equal numbers to the zx14r. Its easy to throw a kawa pro rider on a bike he knows like tha back of his hand and run good times. Then put him on a bike he doesnt know and say WOW!! look at the difference!! Put a busa rider on the busa!! While the gen 2 is not 1430cc it will still hold its own!! Equal the playing field with a 1441 busa and see the outcome. Apples to apples races!!
here are some other stock gen 2 dyno numbers
Your dyno charts mean nothing ... The chart I posted is same day same dyno , 2011 Busa and a 2012 ZX14R both stock .. Gen 1 zx14s dyno right at 162 163 on the same dyno and that is right on the money with my dyno .. The test done back to back shows the HP difference between the two bikes .. A lot of Busa owners jump ship and got a zx14 when the zx14 came out.. A lot more are going to jump ship and get the new ZX14R ... You are welcome to join us ..
Exactly same day same dyno the ZX 14R puts out over 20 more horsepower than the Busa...........that 14R is gonna hand the Busa its ass...............the Gen 1 ZX 14 didnt have anywhere near that much of a horsepower advantage over a Gen 1 Busa, and it was clearly faster........I NEVER lost to a Gen 1 Busa.......now if a pro drag racer or very skilled rider where on the Busa then I could see a Gen Busa beating a Gen 1 ZX 14..............but with equal riders who can handle the power SWB this new ZX 14 wont be touched by other stock bikes.
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posted November 23, 2011 09:22 PM
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[Your dyno charts mean nothing ...
that proves that all bikes are different.
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The chart I posted is same day same dyno , 2011 Busa and a 2012 ZX14R both stock .. Gen 1 zx14s dyno right at 162 163 on the same dyno and that is right on the money with my dyno .. The test done back to back shows the HP difference between the two bikes .. A lot of Busa owners jump ship and got a zx14 when the zx14 came out.. A lot more are going to jump ship and get the new ZX14R ... You are welcome to join us ..
They are too ugly for me!!
Thats were the improvements should have gone.
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Exactly same day same dyno the ZX 14R puts out over 20 more horsepower than the Busa...........that 14R is gonna hand the Busa its ass..............
guess all bikes are the same. all zx14r's will make 190 and all gen 2 will make 160. Cuzz bikes are never different.
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.the Gen 1 ZX 14 didnt have anywhere near that much of a horsepower advantage over a Gen 1 Busa, and it was clearly faster........I NEVER lost to a Gen 1 Busa.......now if a pro drag racer or very skilled rider where on the Busa then I could see a Gen Busa beating a Gen 1 ZX 14..............but with equal riders who can handle the power SWB this new ZX 14 wont be touched by other stock bikes.
we all have our opinions
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Wheelie
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posted November 23, 2011 09:52 PM
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[Your dyno charts mean nothing ...
that proves that all bikes are different.
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The chart I posted is same day same dyno , 2011 Busa and a 2012 ZX14R both stock .. Gen 1 zx14s dyno right at 162 163 on the same dyno and that is right on the money with my dyno .. The test done back to back shows the HP difference between the two bikes .. A lot of Busa owners jump ship and got a zx14 when the zx14 came out.. A lot more are going to jump ship and get the new ZX14R ... You are welcome to join us ..
They are too ugly for me!!
Thats were the improvements should have gone.
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Exactly same day same dyno the ZX 14R puts out over 20 more horsepower than the Busa...........that 14R is gonna hand the Busa its ass..............
guess all bikes are the same. all zx14r's will make 190 and all gen 2 will make 160. Cuzz bikes are never different.
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.the Gen 1 ZX 14 didnt have anywhere near that much of a horsepower advantage over a Gen 1 Busa, and it was clearly faster........I NEVER lost to a Gen 1 Busa.......now if a pro drag racer or very skilled rider where on the Busa then I could see a Gen Busa beating a Gen 1 ZX 14..............but with equal riders who can handle the power SWB this new ZX 14 wont be touched by other stock bikes.
we all have our opinions
I have facts
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posted November 23, 2011 10:14 PM
Edited By: TideworldorderZX14 on 24 Nov 2011 06:16
O3SGBUSA......so why did you come to a 14 forum to share urs? Jealous....huh....do I smell a little envy brewing....LOL
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posted November 23, 2011 10:41 PM
O3SGBUSA we dont do drag racing anymore but some of our friends have Gen 1 & 2 Busas they all have pipes,pc,filters ect on their bikes and weight to weight riders the Busas always loose,the Gen 2 busa is close to the Gen1- 14.The Gen 2 Busas run 308Km/h Max stock gearing & the zx14's run 316km/h stock gearing here in Johannesburg,this is on a 2,6 km stretch.I cant see the Gen2 busa even close to a 14R on the road,I get your point that the new 14R is heavier but even in stock form this bike should pull Gen 1 -14 & Gen 2 Busa stock easy.
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03SGBUSA
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posted November 24, 2011 03:29 AM
Edited By: 03SGBUSA on 24 Nov 2011 11:49
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I have facts
so do I
this is a bone stock 08 gen2 that was dynoed at ryan schnitz dyno.
here is the link
http://www.hayabusa.org/forum/gen-ii-busa-information/79620-stock-08-dyno-results-schnitz-racing.html
The gen 2 also weights 13-15lbs less then a zx14r.
all bikes dyno different and all bikes run different times. And while Im not trying to say you dont know much about bikes....because Im not. Im saying we have a brand new dynojet at the shop and have seen 2 bikes with identical mods make different numbers. We have seen gen 2's making higher numbers then other gen 2's. If you think every zx14r is gonna make 190whp then your sorely mistaking. And not every gen2 will make 180whp.
Assuming a zx14r will automaticly take out a gen2 is also something you are sorely mistaken over. The one gen2 that was dynoed was one of the weakest I have seen dyno and for that matter one of the slowest I have seen go down the quarter. I have 230lb riders run stockers faster then that.
You are more then welcome to sit here in a dream world and not accept the facts. I am a busa owner and one that as access to a dyno and is at the track every weekend.
I have personally seen a stock gen2 owned by brandon michnan aka "the 7sec kid" run a 9.47@147 with no strap or lowering links. And im sure with lowering links and a strap 9.3's would have not been a issue. His gen2 has the same mods minus the mr12 that the 14r ran a 8.99@156 went a 8.8@157.
These are facts!!
Only the KAWA people believe that crap in that video. Ie why rickey came on here to clear the air....
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O3SGBUSA......so why did you come to a 14 forum to share urs? Jealous....huh....do I smell a little envy brewing....LOL
Im not a brand loyal person man. Im not taking anything away from the new zx14r. If the 14 was not so ugly I would have one as well.
I do think its funny that the kawa had to build a 1430cc to take on the 4 year old gen 2 design and it really didnt do much better. If I was a KAWA owner I would be beating my chest like the mustang owners did when the 03 cobra came out. All suzuki would have to do is 1441cc a gen 2 and its game over. This is not hating!! Its facts!!
But the facts remain...the zx14r hasnt done anything a gen2 hasnt done.
Even a bmw 1000rr is running quicker times and mph.
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.I cant see the Gen2 busa even close to a 14R on the road,I get your point that the new 14R is heavier but even in stock form this bike should pull Gen 1 -14 & Gen 2 Busa stock easy.
And maybe Im spoiled because we have a local pro rider at our local track. so i can see in person what a bike can really do...or basicly what rickey gadison can do on one.
I mean lets be real here.
There are only a handful of people that race bikes that will take a 14r to it potental, like rickey g. The man lives on KAWA products and is known to be one of the best hand clutch guys out there. Thats why I said I would love to see him square off against a busa rider with equal skills on a gen 2 like our pro rider. more of a apples to apples race.
our pro rider at the georgia manufactures cup
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/articlefiles/2011_11_E_SET_SUN.html
Not looking to take the wind out of anyone sails. Would be nice if they would actually post up reality not some bogus info. If it wasnt crap I wouldnt have any reason to be here talking. Im not on any of the Bmw sites. Only thing that brought me here was Ricky's response to the video.
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posted November 24, 2011 04:30 AM
reallity is what many of these members on this forum is about....... there is no way in hell gen 2 busa will produce the numbers of the 2012 14R... physic is really against you... your lips are moving, but the words are coming out wrong..... the #s are already done, same day, all three gen bikes.... SAME DYNO....
Your friend can ride. There are alot of lil guys that can job on a bike and go faster if they are smaller than the orignal rider. That's not proving nothing to me....
You need to call Suzuki and ask where's the new 1k and busa that will match Kawi... BMW fired a shot, Kawi answered with the new 2011 zx10, while Kawi was answering the questions, they released a monster.. now you busa boys will have to build your already built bikes to keep up....
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posted November 24, 2011 04:36 AM
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You are more then welcome to sit here in a dream world and not accept the facts. I am a busa owner and one that as access to a dyno and is at the track every weekend.
I have personally seen a stock gen2 owned by brandon michnan aka "the 7sec kid"
can't think of anyone that shows up to SAR every weekend except 1 person
BUT
i think you need to learn how to spell your last name
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posted November 24, 2011 06:20 AM
This guy is sounding more and more like the nut swinger IMFASTOO ...
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posted November 24, 2011 06:36 AM
Ryan Schnitz dyno numbers are STD that read much hight than SAE , charts i posted are SAE .. We all know ryan schnitz dyno numbers read higher than most ... ZX14s on his dyno read in the 183 to 186 also.. We have seen many of his zx14 dyno runs posted here over the years ..
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posted November 24, 2011 07:00 AM
There are a few Busa owners that are really Butt hurting over the new ZX14R .. Most of the guys on the Busa web site really like the new ZX14R and would love to own one .. But as allways there are a few die hard Busa owners that will say anything to make the Busa look better than a zx14 .. We know the truth .. Gen 1 busa was no match for the Gen 1 zx14 .. The Gen 2 busa is a dead heat with the gen 1 zx14 ..And as the Busa owners will find out shortly the new ZX14R will blow away the Gen 2 busa just like it did to the gen 1 busa back in 2006 ..
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posted November 24, 2011 07:30 AM
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reallity is what many of these members on this forum is about....... there is no way in hell gen 2 busa will produce the numbers of the 2012 14R... physic is really against you... your lips are moving, but the words are coming out wrong..... the #s are already done, same day, all three gen bikes.... SAME DYNO....
Yeah cuzz dyno numbers mean everything. You are dense to think a gen2 busa does a best of 160whp and can only run low 10's when gen1's have gone into the mid 9's with less power and cc's.
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Your friend can ride. There are alot of lil guys that can job on a bike and go faster if they are smaller than the orignal rider. That's not proving nothing to me....
wow 20lbs!!!! a whopping 20lbs discredits our pro rider.
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You need to call Suzuki and ask where's the new 1k and busa that will match Kawi... BMW fired a shot, Kawi answered with the new 2011 zx10, while Kawi was answering the questions, they released a monster.. now you busa boys will have to build your already built bikes to keep up....
why??? I have already stated the local pro rider runs the same times as kawa pro rider. Looks like suzuki old shit is working just fine.
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can't think of anyone that shows up to SAR every weekend except 1 person
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i think you need to learn how to spell your last name
? that makes no sense bro!! There is more then one track in TX homie!!
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This guy is sounding more and more like the nut swinger IMFASTOO ...
Nut swinging from who??
Stating the obvious!! Even your boy ricky said the video info was bogus!!
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Ryan Schnitz dyno numbers are STD that read much hight than SAE , charts i posted are SAE .. We all know ryan schnitz dyno numbers read higher than most ... ZX14s on his dyno read in the 183 to 186 also.. We have seen many of his zx14 dyno runs posted here over the years ..
this is awesome!! hell bent on fiction here!! Bet you believe dyno calculators as well!!!
reality!!
8.99@156 zx14r with pipe,tune and fuel mr12
8.86@157 gen2 pipe,tune,u4
so saying a gen 2 would get its ass whooped is a false statement.
You are trying to turn this into a thread that I hate zx14r's.
I really dont!! I mean they are ugly as fuck!!!
I say put a pro rider on the zx14 and a pro rider on a gen2 and lets see what happens. Yall are getting so worked up!! Like "how dare I"
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posted November 24, 2011 07:43 AM
busa, look at the time slips you are comparing. the busa 60ft a lot better. whenever ricky posted these numbers, no one was impressed. the problem is, it has too much power for stock wheel base. he cant get wot quick enough. you should understand that...
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posted November 24, 2011 07:48 AM
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I owe a gen1 Hayabusa and look at whatever other bikes run as just plain info.
I listen to gsxr1000 owners talk smack like running a gen1 busa is a apples to apples race. Nevermind the fact that thanks to technology the 1000 makes the same rearwheel stock a gen1 one does and weighs 100lbs less.
I listen to gen 2 busa guys compare what they run with simply boltons vs what my does with the same mods. Its like they dont have 1340cc vs 1299cc. Or 9 year newer tech. Once again not apples to apples
What I find is bullshxt is the ZX14R vegas video. Even rickey claims they didnt get all the correct info for the video. His quickest runs on either bike. But aside from that why didnt they putting someone more familiar with a busa to get et's... You know automatically busas owners will call bs on that. Even Rickey stated he aint been on one in many moons. But he knows the in's and out's on a zx14 and every other kawa product out there.
Rickey went a 9.3@149 on the zx14r stock with a strap and lowered. then a 8.99 on one with pipe,tune and gas. We have a local rider named "brandon michnan" that has the same mods on his gen2 busa minus the gas that has gone 8.8's@157. The same kid went a 9.47@147 on a 08 gen 2 with no mods {stock height and no strap}
The "kid" you are talking about is a flyweight.. The facts are the busa's he ran those ET's on were just enuff power for his weight. If you listen to yourself "talk" it sounds like you are comparing riders and not bikes. Do you think your boy Brandon can go quicker on a stock wheelbase 1441 busa then the did on the two stock bikes you are talking about?
Think before you answer that question
Mind you this is on a bike that makes much lower numbers,has a smaller displacement and 4 year old technology.
Im not hating on the zx14r. Its newer,more technology,larger motor with Im sure better head and cams for the larger cc's. From looking at the facts I wont be beating my chest seeing how it really didnt slaughter the busa with all the new stuff. I would love to see rickey on a new zx14r vs brandon michnan on a gen2. Stock to stock!!! now that would be a commercial!!
Hell I watched the kid take my best friends bone stock 05 gen1 with no mods and run a 9.96@141.8 in 15-20 mph crosswinds. I ran 9.5's@142 early the same night. The cold front moved in with the crosswinds. My times dropped to 9.7's@138. I bet he would have gone 9.7's easliy at 144
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06 ZX14 65"
Best 1/8 mile 5.68@126.4 on a 1.41 60'
Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
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JZX
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posted November 24, 2011 07:55 AM
03SGbusa, answer my question- can Brandon go down the track on a swb 1441 gen 2 Busa as quick or quicker then the stock gen 2's he ran those ET's on?
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06 ZX14 65"
Best 1/8 mile 5.68@126.4 on a 1.41 60'
Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
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