wedrivezs
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posted May 11, 2011 10:07 PM
wheelie bar virgin on a ZX-12
I have no idea how high off the ground to set these things. I'm nervous about them, what's it like when you come up on them? Do they dance you around? Or do you not feel them at all?
- Corey
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Paul2281
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posted May 12, 2011 05:29 AM
The rule of thumb for setting the bars is to use a 2x4 under the rear wheelie bar wheels....
Are you using a slick or street tire??? With a street tire you will tend to want to leave hard knowing your not going to flip over,but usually spins the tire.... With a slick it has awsome grip and will tend to want to pull the handle bars out of your hands because of the grip...So hang on and lean into it on the launch.....JMO....
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wedrivezs
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posted May 12, 2011 05:15 PM
Thanks, that's how I'll set it up.
do you get wicked fast times with wheelie bars vs. stretched?
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Paul2281
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posted May 13, 2011 05:18 AM
Depends on you ability....I`ve never ridden a streetbike with bars before....
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2000redrocket
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posted May 14, 2011 01:36 PM
if you have a slick make sure the rear hardware can take the hard shock. i have seen the adjusting bilts bent way out when the bike hit the tire and slid the wheel block front and did not care the adjusting bolts were there.
make sure the rear nut is tight.
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zxboy
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posted May 15, 2011 05:09 PM
wedrivezs.......
I got the slick and bar thing dialed in !!
I need to know how you're set up ?? Tire?? length of the arm ?? are they the Pingel bolt on bars ??
here's a tip for you.....
DON'T strap the front end down while your running a strut...
Let's see your set up
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KZScott
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posted May 15, 2011 05:32 PM
quote:
wedrivezs.......
I got the slick and bar thing dialed in !!
I need to know how you're set up ?? Tire?? length of the arm ?? are they the Pingel bolt on bars ??
here's a tip for you.....
DON'T strap the front end down while your running a strut...
Let's see your set up
listen to this guy!! ^^^
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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wedrivezs
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posted May 16, 2011 07:02 PM
stock arm, 6'4" 230lbs, yes on the Pingle.
Anyone have detailed pictures of the setup?
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zxboy
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posted May 18, 2011 11:49 AM
 Edited By: zxboy on 18 May 2011 19:52
Corey,
What Tire ????
Basic setup of the bars:
Make sure your rear axle is perfectly straight....This is important, because if the axle ain't straight it'll pull to one side or the other while on the bars !!! I have one of those motion-pro tools that goes into the swingarm pivot and axle. You can get away with a tape measure but you'll need two people.
Next the wheelie bar axle needs to be level with the bike.....Just as important as the above measurment for the same reason. I do this by putting the bike on a rear stand and getting the rear brake disc to be exactly 90 degrees to level (I'll shim the stand or just move the bike and stand around on a flat suface till the disc is at 90 degrees) Once that's done check the axle and turn one rod-end or the other till it's level.
Now you can set the bar height...because the bike is short I'd start at 1 inch from the bottom of the wheels to the ground. Turn each rod end the same amount or you'll lose the level of the axle.
Set the front rebound to all the way stiff so it'll snatch the front wheel off the ground at the launch and try to carry it about a inch or so off the track...
With the pingel setup...if you tighten the chain it raises the bar height and you'll need to re adjust.
use the wheels up (shoe polish) on the wheelie wheels till you figure it out...it'll give you a clue as to how it's hitting the bars....
This is just the beginning of a proper bar set-up (I just saved you what took me 4 test sessions to figue out !!)
I've only run a Mickey Thompson slick so if your running a street tire some things may need to be changed.
Be warned...i started out the same way and next thing you know..... I've got a slider clutch, 2-step, +12 arm, air shifter Etc... Etc... Etc..... 
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wedrivezs
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posted May 20, 2011 05:29 AM
what size mickey thompson slick do you use?
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zxboy
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posted May 20, 2011 06:30 AM
I ran a 25/7-17" on the stock wheel for a while...now I'm running a 25/7-18" on a RC comp wheel. These are wrinkle wall drag slicks !!
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KZScott
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posted May 21, 2011 06:19 PM
25 or 26?
we run the 26.0/7.0-17 Rear Slick - M/T on dads stock rim
http://www.schnitzracingstore.com/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=5080027&showprevnext=1
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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zxboy
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posted May 23, 2011 05:43 AM
Yeh....your right !! I came up with those numbers off the top of my head....I guess my CRS (Can't Remember Shit) is kicking in.
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KZScott
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posted May 23, 2011 03:03 PM
I had to look it up lol
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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wedrivezs
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posted June 12, 2011 08:04 PM
On my way to Sturgis for a test and tune in stock form -
I hit something on the road - came up broke my chain and fucked the bike all up. Case is O.K. but it has $3600 in damages. So, I can't do shit until the insurance company settles with me.
Parts are here waiting to go on....I have to order that slick tomorrow.
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