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posted October 13, 2010 03:36 AM
how much trailer could i tow with my cop car???
2005 Crown Vic PI
I currently have a Kendon 2 bike trailer which it tows like it isn't even there.
But
I'd really prefer a 2 bike enclosed trailer.
Any thoughts of how big a trailer my cop car could handle on trips to Maine, Mojave, Miami, etc????
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posted October 13, 2010 04:49 AM
Karl, get a low profile v nose if you do it......., wind resistance on the low crown vic will be the issue......
Put a TB spacer on it, and a cold air intake. It was almost 2 mpg on my old police car when I was a cop........, made a huge difference on performance......
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posted October 13, 2010 05:40 AM
NOX,
good info!
How big a trailer do you think the cop car could tow, weightwise?
2 axle? 1 axle?
where do i get the TB spacer, cold air intake?
thanks for yr help.
Karl
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posted October 13, 2010 05:42 AM
Yeah Karl, the ones with the v nose do very well.
I would also fabricate a sheet metal airflow separator for the top, trailing edge of the trailer. Just take a look at most new small SUV's, truck tailgates and cars with blunt rear ends. The manufacturers have all added these to bump MPG.  
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posted October 13, 2010 07:15 AM
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Yeah Karl, the ones with the v nose do very well.
I would also fabricate a sheet metal airflow separator for the top, trailing edge of the trailer. Just take a look at most new small SUV's, truck tailgates and cars with blunt rear ends. The manufacturers have all added these to bump MPG.
hey Shawn,
what i NEED is yr Viper truck; I betcha it has some towing capacity!!!!
Good to sit down with you in Mesa.
Now you have to make it to the Texas Mile, yup.
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posted October 13, 2010 08:04 AM
You need to check the owners manual and then deduct 10% from that because they are always optimistic. You'll need a way to adapt the trailers brakes into the car and any team fat ass members riding in the car count as total weight.
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posted October 13, 2010 08:08 AM
http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1432842
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posted October 13, 2010 10:42 AM
Pete, thanks a million.
I did some other googling and found that although 5000# is spec, seems to be concensus that about 3500# is fine.
so a 2000# trailer, 2 bikes and a buncha normal race shit should be easily doable.
That is WAY more than i previously thought it could handle.
the pisser will be where to store it, as my subdivision doesn't allow that kindo stuff in the driveway for more than a couple of days.
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posted October 13, 2010 10:48 AM
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We have a 6 x 12 V-Nose. Hauls two bikes and gear with no issue. I believe the trailer weight is either at/under 1300 lbs.
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posted October 13, 2010 11:06 AM
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We have a 6 x 12 V-Nose. Hauls two bikes and gear with no issue. I believe the trailer weight is either at/under 1300 lbs.
Shane
Shane,
wow, 1300 is light, light is good. 1 or 2 axle?
what do you tow it with and when am i going to see it pull up to my house in Texas?
(on the way to the Mile)
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posted October 13, 2010 11:42 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Oct 2010 19:43
One axle. No Brakes on the trailer. We paid $2500, new, for the trailer. They can be had cheaper. We have two Condor chocks installed, bikes are staggered. Can also carry two long bikes without issue.
We towed the Busa and my 14 up to Maine. That included the trailer spare and a couple of sets of bike tires, full tools, race fuel, spares, etc. I am usually fairly well outfitted, I basically bring the garage with me (if in cardboard boxes, lol).
We towed it up to Maine with a 1997 GMC Safari Conversion. We have also towed it with a 4Cyl 4Runner and an F150...
Next year, Karl...next year we turn wheels in TX!
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posted October 13, 2010 11:50 AM
Shane,
very good info, you helped me decide that i will do it.
Prob keep my eyes open for someone selling already set up for 2 bikes.
I'm gonna sell/part out the 12 after Texas, but it is walys good to have 2 bike capability.
Thanks again for the info
Karl
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posted October 13, 2010 11:54 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Oct 2010 19:56
I think the 4Runner was also rated at 5000 lbs towing. We just left it in 4th gear on the highway. That is a heavy truck, pulling a loaded trailer, and on only 4 cyls. The van is just a 4.3 V6, and it is also a heavy vehicle (Fully Outfitted Shaggin' Wagon).
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posted October 13, 2010 11:55 AM
Edited By: Stuart Racing on 13 Oct 2010 22:19
I have a 2001 CV P71 with every perf. mod added to it....
I bought a hand help programmer with 2 custom maps programmed into it. www.sctflash.com...It REALLY made this car pop.....Go to www.blueovalchips.com and talk to Lonnie for more info....
I`ve been wanting to know how much this thing can tow too....Probably gonna need some air shocks....I also put a set of Flowmaster mufflers and 3" pipes on it too..a true cold air intake....I heard the TB spacer wasn`t worth doing because there wasn`t any measurable gain from it....But an exh. system and a tune is well worth it for towing a trailer.....
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posted October 13, 2010 11:56 AM
http://www.rvtraderonline.com/find/listing/1984-TOYHAULER-FORD-F700-TOY-HAULER-95973323
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posted October 13, 2010 12:37 PM
Karl you saw my trailer. Its a 7 x 12 single axle no brakes Haulmark.
You wont need brakes on a small single axle trialer. It doesnt weigh much.
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posted October 13, 2010 02:16 PM
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http://www.rvtraderonline.com/find/listing/1984-TOYHAULER-FORD-F700-TOY-HAULER-95973323
Oh snap.....Thats sweet......
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posted October 13, 2010 04:29 PM
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NOX,
good info!
How big a trailer do you think the cop car could tow, weightwise?
2 axle? 1 axle?
where do i get the TB spacer, cold air intake?
thanks for yr help.
Karl
We had a place in Little Rock, or North Little Rock custom make them, cause the intakes are on the opposite side from the Mustangs.......
Lots of whistle at low rpm, but good torque......
I will see what I can find out......
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posted October 13, 2010 04:31 PM
Also, get a double axle, with brakes, with torsion axles......
If you pick it up at the factory, Vintage trailers will custom make you one. My trailer was custom made.....
If you get a low rise....., it will fit into your garage, I have some friends that have that issue. I am lucky, I just cannot have it in the driveway, but I have a 40 ft paved area next to the garage.
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posted October 14, 2010 05:48 AM
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hey Shawn,
what i NEED is yr Viper truck; I betcha it has some towing capacity!!!!
Good to sit down with you in Mesa.
Now you have to make it to the Texas Mile, yup.
Nah....It'sonly good for hauling ass
I agree, It was a good time although short Things will sort out here in a year and then I will start prep on the "ol 12 for a run at the mile.
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posted October 14, 2010 05:59 AM
NOX, tell me about the benefits of double axles
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posted October 14, 2010 08:37 AM
I am not sure but it may lower the tongue weight with two axles. The tongue weight is overlooked a lot and would effect how much squat in the back of the car.
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posted October 14, 2010 08:51 AM
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I am not sure but it may lower the tongue weight with two axles. The tongue weight is overlooked a lot and would effect how much squat in the back of the car.
X2....Plus the electric brakes are a big help in slowing down the whole package......
Have you checked to see if they/someone makes a class3 receiver hitch for a CV??? Checkout www.crownvic.net alot of info there.....
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posted October 14, 2010 10:57 AM
Thanks guys.
I have a pretty stout hitch on it now but not sure what class it is???
How do i tell?
I am a member of crownvic.net, pop in from time to time, asking questions.
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posted October 14, 2010 11:21 AM
How big is the receiver??? A 2" receiver is the size of my class3 on my Tahoe....I think class 1 and 2 are the smaller receiver`s....Have you put some air shocks on it yet???
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