posted January 01, 2010 07:36 PM
what does it take to run a 7.99? if a 12 or 14 was at about 74 in wb with a slick, no bars. no fancy cf rims. normal sized guy. how much power would it take? 300hp? 350? more?
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posted January 02, 2010 05:51 AM
I would think a min of 325-350 rwhp with lots of tq. What was the quickest Chris ran with his NOS shootout bike (back when 8.1's with GSXR13401371/1500 NOS combo's from Carpenter/Bellucci ruling the day)? I saw him run a 8.32 if memory is correct and his motor was big with NOS on top.
posted January 02, 2010 08:03 AM
It is all in the set-up. Steve only has 12 runs on the bike and the chassis is nowhere near perfect. 7.77 ET, 74" WB, 7" slick, 580# bike & rider. 250 RWHP, no spray. Bike is old Maxton racer that went 206 naked. And yes I am thinking of doing a 14. LSL
quote:It is all in the set-up. Steve only has 12 runs on the bike and the chassis is nowhere near perfect. 7.77 ET, 74" WB, 7" slick, 580# bike & rider. 250 RWHP, no spray. Bike is old Maxton racer that went 206 naked. And yes I am thinking of doing a 14. LSL
posted January 02, 2010 11:24 AM
Edited By: almost_les on 2 Jan 2010 19:31
i think its gonna take a setup like 13killa's where the stock tank is completely removed and you are sitting low in the frame. look at the mph that 7.9x bike are running and that should give you an idea about how much hp you will need. the rest is all in the chassis. run that itty bitty slick that the grudge guys use, remove the front fender. get your forks shortened and then lower them in the triples to where the front tire just about touches when the forks are bottomed. throw on a sidewinder and a cut pan too. and then make a few sacrifices to please the drag racing gods.
posted January 02, 2010 11:55 AM
Edited By: osti33 on 2 Jan 2010 19:57
quote:It is all in the set-up. Steve only has 12 runs on the bike and the chassis is nowhere near perfect. 7.77 ET, 74" WB, 7" slick, 580# bike & rider. 250 RWHP, no spray. Bike is old Maxton racer that went 206 naked. And yes I am thinking of doing a 14. LSL
It ia all about the set-up. Chassis is everything on the fastest bikes. Look at the pro street bikes. They all make 500-600 HP but they don't all ET the same.
You feeling OK Larry? You're gonna do a 14??? Cabin Fever?
Also, Steve is not your average rider. He is a helluva good rider! That guy can ride anything with two wheels. Drag race, land speed, doesn't matter. I'll take Steve on my team any day.
quote:Forget about a 12 goin 7.99...Just get it out of your head...Dont even think about it anymore !!!
74inch wheelbase
Scott, thats as long as a Tractor & Trailer
a 14 with a stroker and a 100 shot will do it @ 68inch wheelbase with a good rider !!!
Turbo 14 @ 64inch wheelbase will go faster than 7.99
clearly its been done before, so why get it out of my head?
yeah, 74, as in about 18 over, just slightly shorter than an 18 wheeler.. your point?
so you are basically saying that it would take a 4 mill stroker 14 less than 100 hp of nitrous to run 7.99 at 74 in wb. how about a 3x4 12 with a 100 shot?
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quote:It is all in the set-up. Steve only has 12 runs on the bike and the chassis is nowhere near perfect. 7.77 ET, 74" WB, 7" slick, 580# bike & rider. 250 RWHP, no spray. Bike is old Maxton racer that went 206 naked. And yes I am thinking of doing a 14. LSL
quote:i think its gonna take a setup like 13killa's where the stock tank is completely removed and you are sitting low in the frame. look at the mph that 7.9x bike are running and that should give you an idea about how much hp you will need. the rest is all in the chassis. run that itty bitty slick that the grudge guys use, remove the front fender. get your forks shortened and then lower them in the triples to where the front tire just about touches when the forks are bottomed. throw on a sidewinder and a cut pan too. and then make a few sacrifices to please the drag racing gods.
and then there is the clutch tuning....
and then theres track conditions....
my highspeed is down, on dial up, how fast are they going?
yeah, adams pan, cut forks, SW would definately be on the list.
im not saying im going to try it this season coming, just wanted to get some ideas and discuss what it would take ____________
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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quote:It is all in the set-up. Steve only has 12 runs on the bike and the chassis is nowhere near perfect. 7.77 ET, 74" WB, 7" slick, 580# bike & rider. 250 RWHP, no spray. Bike is old Maxton racer that went 206 naked. And yes I am thinking of doing a 14. LSL
It ia all about the set-up. Chassis is everything on the fastest bikes. Look at the pro street bikes. They all make 500-600 HP but they don't all ET the same.
You feeling OK Larry? You're gonna do a 14??? Cabin Fever?
Also, Steve is not your average rider. He is a helluva good rider! That guy can ride anything with two wheels. Drag race, land speed, doesn't matter. I'll take Steve on my team any day.
i definately agree that chassis is less focused on than power. i have been guilty of this in the past. adding nitrous before getting the chassis right. just started really playing with suspension towards the end of the season and beat all my old nitrous passes NA.
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
quote:Well Scott, you're looking at whatever it takes to go 1.1x 60 foots and run 17x.xx mph.
I think you definitely have to leave the street oriented setup behind. Is that an understatement?
very much so. i cant see a bike without a sw getting any better than a 1.30 60ft
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 02, 2010 01:07 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 2 Jan 2010 21:09
It's so much more than the pipe, imo. Getting low is just the tip of the iceberg.
Look at the weight, the clutch, the chassis, the rider skill...it's the whole package. And of course, it's going to take some consistent, reliable hp.
posted January 02, 2010 03:28 PM
Steve uses a slider. 1.19 60' 174 MPH. He sold his swingarm and is going 4" longer with auto trans and a bigger motor . If all else fails, the little blue bottle.
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posted January 03, 2010 06:29 AM
NOX has his in multi mode and I beleive he has it working pretty good....I have mine in slider mode and it`s working great, NO wheelie or tire spin......I CAN overide the slider with the lever if I need/want too......
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