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posted January 06, 2010 01:43 PM
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30 would be an improvement, it's been getting into the TEENS at night, with no relief in sight. I smash my knuckles more frequently when it gets that cold.
So, didja hurt it on that first pass?
nope, no hurt, good leakdown.
2 plugs swimming in oil (externally) was interesting.
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posted January 06, 2010 04:13 PM
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Yeah Dan, we stay real busy year round, somehow and luckily... always have. Hope it stays that way for another couple decades at least.
Deb doesn't get as much time at the shop nowadays Karl (which is why we had to move the office to the house). Here's a shot of the whole house garage situation... so we should be able to do more of our personal stuff at home now.
Thanks Shane... I'm kinda partial to the 1976 myself too (well, next to the 1965 anyway).
I got my first and last ride (short as it was) on the '65 today (65 miles actually) before it goes to my dad's house for him to start on the restoration. Sure felt good and that old Linkert carb loves this weather better then any fuel injection system I've ever touched. Leakdown you say Karl? 100%! Yep.. it "all leaks down" on this one. ;-)
Shane, your effort into your garage layout is one of the few projects you'll do that just keeps giving back as long as you keep it up a little here and there (and it's easy once it's how you really want it). Don't do it to look good, do it to look efficient and you will love it when you get back to wrenching. Can't wait to see pics of both your and Karl's place as they come along.
Todd
PS: At a minumum in this weather... torpedo heaters to break the chill, and radiant heaters to keep it there.
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posted January 06, 2010 04:37 PM
Good looking ride Todd! Nice garage space too. I'm jealous.
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posted January 07, 2010 05:53 AM
Thanks Ryan.. but it's a "not all the grass is greener" type of deal, it's usually only greener where there's been alot of shit in the past, ya know? ;-) But we do feel very fortunate here... Deb and I eyeballed it for 4 years and stalked it hard the last 2 years before it and the opportunity opened up for us. We're sure learning what a real electric bill is now (the house size goes well with the garage space and it's on a 1971 heatpump at the moment).
The Panhead I've had for a couple decades and worked on it for the previous owner before that. The Sportster I've had for 26 years now and have personally put more then 200,000 miles on it, so I guess my ass has paid it's dues on those bikes. I don't regret any of the time I've spent on them, but there's plenty of those times I don't want to relive either - lol.
Tell your Dad I said hi and hope to see y'all again soon.
So how about some progress reports or pics Karl... I love new builds of places for new builds!
I want to see more of your layout as it comes together too Shane... it has tons of potential, you have great projects you do and I really dig the property layout.
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posted January 07, 2010 07:48 AM
Looking good! I love that Panhead! and I bought the lower end Handy and picked it up from the local farm store, the floor model it was around 550... just had to wipe the dust off... brand new and had never been used. came with the vice.
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posted January 07, 2010 10:16 AM
Thanks Mike. Awesome deal on your Handy lift. One of my mechanics just bought a used one for his house off Craigslist for $500 (it's in great shape). Your deal was great to say the least, last time I paid $500 for a new one was in '89 I think... and I've been a dealer for them ever since.
I still think (short of someone getting a deal like yours that is) a wooden ride-on paltform with drawers built under it and a Handy clamp on it is best(cash and space saving wise anyways) for someone that's got the room for a long ramp to sit outside and not changing bikes around on a daily basis. I miss mine and think I might go back to that for the home garage the more I think of it now.
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posted January 07, 2010 01:18 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 7 Jan 2010 21:29
We have 2 out of the 3 bays of a large detached garage:
There is no heating or cooling. So, my first step will be to get some decent heaters. I've been using a little propane unit, but I will be investing in something a little larger. I do have plenty of 20 amp circuits, though, which is good. Step 2 will be adding some more light.
I also have a full-size fridge, a decent air compressor, and a manual tire changer. 
Outside of that, it needs a lot of work. I spent about 5 years making it a mess...so it could take a bit of time to get it straightened out. 
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posted January 07, 2010 02:33 PM
Man, I need more garage.........LOL
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posted January 08, 2010 07:28 AM
While I was at Maxton one weekend my wife surprised me by painting the garage gray and painting the KAWASAKI on the wall. Yep, she a keeper.
When I built our house a few years ago I had them add an extra 1 car garage so I would have me a little shop. At the time I had only the ZX14 but now I have a KLR also and it gets a little cramped at times.
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posted January 09, 2010 02:36 AM
madkawboy,
you have a GREAT wife!
Get a HF lift, you will not regret it!
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posted January 09, 2010 06:27 AM
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madkawboy,
you have a GREAT wife!
Get a HF lift, you will not regret it!
Yeah I know, it is one of the many things on the list to get.
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posted January 09, 2010 11:31 AM
Shane, if you insulated that place im sure the current heaters would be more than adequate. 3rd bay is for a car or do you rent the garage?
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posted January 09, 2010 11:33 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 9 Jan 2010 19:34
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Shane, if you insulated that place im sure the current heaters would be more than adequate. 3rd bay is for a car or do you rent the garage?
I rent the garage. I got some additional heating today, I will post pics later. I have work to do out there. 
What you can't see in the photo is how high the ceiling is inside, it is really a vast area. I was only using a single 40k btu propane heater before. If I owned it, it would definitely be insulated.
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posted January 09, 2010 02:07 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 9 Jan 2010 23:45
Well, I made some progress today.
First I addressed the lack-of-heating issue:
These two took the chill away. The main thing to remember is to ventilate the area, since you are burning fuel in an enclosed (albeit very large) space. The convection unit is an 80k btu propane unit; the forced air unit is a 125k btu diesel/keresone unit. I like that the forced air unit is on wheels, I can see using this at the track on those cold Spring and Fall mornings. Total cost for both units was right at $400. Just when I had the Visa paid down...
After I got things warmed up, I upgraded the lighting by installing 6 new fixtures. Pictures below show the difference in light output:
Before (Only four 48" fixtures were installed):
After (Added six more 48" fixtures):
Once I added all of those lights, it showed me just how many dark areas are left. Still plenty to do in that regard. Today's lighting upgrade was $220. Not bad, considering it increased my lighting output in lumens by about 200%.
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posted January 09, 2010 02:50 PM
Karl,
I'm thinking this thread of yours is costing us money!
After seeing everyones bright work area I may finish mine in white so these old eyes can see things better!
Money well spent Shane, being cold takes the fun out of tinkering.
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posted January 09, 2010 02:59 PM
im squinting to read the previous post......I guess its time for glasses
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posted January 09, 2010 05:28 PM
nice lights!
i bet one of those large industrial type slow moving ceiling fans would help with heat. most of it is not at the floor unless you are beside the heater
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posted January 09, 2010 05:37 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 10 Jan 2010 01:37
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nice lights!
i bet one of those large industrial type slow moving ceiling fans would help with heat. most of it is not at the floor unless you are beside the heater
Good idea, Scott. I need to figure something out with air circulation, intake and exhaust.
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posted January 09, 2010 05:49 PM
dads shop needs a big exhaust fan. i have given myself several headaches from running the big arc welder with the doors closed. if you ever feel dizzy, get outside!
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posted January 10, 2010 06:18 AM
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Well, I made some progress today.
Added six more 48" fixtures:
Once I added all of those lights, it showed me just how many dark areas are left. Still plenty to do in that regard. Today's lighting upgrade was $220. Not bad, considering it increased my lighting output in lumens by about 200%.
Shane
man o' man, that was fast!!!!
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posted January 10, 2010 10:34 AM
Todd real nice place
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posted January 11, 2010 07:37 PM
I have a little less space so I have to be "efficient"......
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posted January 12, 2010 12:17 AM
WHOA!!!!
Nice garage Doug!
What's up with the vice on the Handy lift???
hmmmmm... seems like the plastic from Y2K ZX12 would mostly fit right on the turbo. Mojave bound?
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posted January 12, 2010 06:23 AM
Good question-I was hoping someone would notice. I have the lift bed and my bench both drilled for the vise.
I can have it on the lift, the bench or stored over on one of the wire racks. I don't like to have to make chips on the workbench, so if I need to grind or file something I can move the vise to a dirty or easier to clean area. The big 7/16 mount bolts can be just finger tight for a lot of jobs and even if I need to tighten them it only takes two minutes. See the round circle just to the left of the vise. That is a 2.5" hole in the bed of the lift. When I'm working with a shaft of any kind (like a transmission stack) I can put the shaft down through that hole and work on it vertically.That is an amazing feature once you have a hole in your bench. My bench, which is in the back on the far left behind the chair is stainless steel. Which I bought at a used restaurant supply store for $175 complete with stainless drawers. It's a "prep table" from a restaurant kitchen.Completely easy to clean, strong and easy to mount stuff to if necessary. If you have one of these stores nearby (all cities have several) check it out, they have loads of cool stuff.
The bodywork swap is a possibility but I would need to modify it a bit which I don't want to do.
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posted January 12, 2010 08:35 AM
used restaurant supply store, great tip!!!
I gotta upgrade my 15YO Chinese crapola vise, and will use the hole in the bench trick
Thanks!
Now get to modifying that plastic.
If you get yr turbo to Mojave, I will find a way to be there with my heap no matter what the closing situation is.
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