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Shane661


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posted November 21, 2009 05:21 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Nov 2009 01:31
- Trick New Exhaust!! Ready to Rock!! -

So...a track day approaches. And guess what? I have no muffler for my CT header...nor the money to buy one. I have heard from several sources that most of the power is in the header. So, I figured I could run it without a muffler. I installed the header, and the exhaust looked like this:



Starting it up, it produced exactly the raspy sound I expected. Even though I am going to put the bike on the dyno, I just couldn't stand that buzzing straight-cut exhaust outlet. Then I asked myself the question: "How can you address this problem while spending under $20?"

Voila!:



That's right, baby!! The $15 Auto Zone exhaust tip!

I went with a high performance model, by "3R Racing":



These guys drove the old "2R Racing" out of business!! Since the whole header weighs about 4.5 lbs. installed, I wanted to make sure that this trick new piece wasn't too heavy:



As expected, 3R Racing didn't disappoint!! 9 oz!!

Freshly installed, and ready to rock:



The perfect compliment for the Ti header and Carbon rims!!:



But, I know what you are all saying: "Sure, it's trick as hell...but how does it sound?"

Well, I'm glad you asked!:



Later this week, I'm off to the dyno...wish me luck!!

Shane

PS. I think I will be marketing these Warp12 Racing Exhaust tips for $399 each...the market is definitely out there!

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tshultz


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posted November 21, 2009 05:45 PM        
should of bought the lord humongous exhaust.
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Shane661


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posted November 21, 2009 05:47 PM        
quote:
should of bought the lord humongous exhaust.


I thought of renaming these tips to "Lord Uranus"...

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KZScott


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posted November 21, 2009 07:14 PM        
I think i would have left it off lol. theres a guy that allways runs his 10 with no muffler, he thinks it helps him go faster his bike does sound like shit so i understand why you went for that "trick" new tip
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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Shane661


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posted November 21, 2009 07:39 PM        
I also figured I could mount a hanger to the tip if needed, without damaging the ti midpipe. Overall, I got my $15 worth and then some!
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KZScott


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posted November 21, 2009 07:47 PM        
personally i would have cut the bottom out of a steel funnel and went for the "megaphone" look, but what ever floats your boat

rims, $3750
exh tip, $15
custom bike, priceless
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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Shane661


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posted November 21, 2009 07:53 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Nov 2009 03:54
This might also afford me another option temporarily...swingarm mounted drag pegs. They wouldn't have cleared the other meg.

I am really interested to see the dyno #'s, power curve and ET with this setup. When I called Brock's Friday they told me that the new Ti meg conversion should be in on 12/1....for very near $800.

If nothing else, it will look 1000x better than my setup...for only 50x the cost.

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Shane661


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posted November 21, 2009 07:55 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Nov 2009 04:01
Imagine if I break into the 8's with this exhaust tip....I am going to laugh.
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KZScott


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posted November 21, 2009 07:58 PM        
then you have to leave it on...
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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Shane661


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posted November 21, 2009 08:05 PM        
quote:
then you have to leave it on...



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KZScott


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posted November 21, 2009 08:14 PM        
one time this yr at the track, cant remember exactly what happened, but my buddys gsxr1000 had some problems with the under tail or something caught on the tire and ruined the end of the pipe somehow... it came apart just under the oil pan so he made a quick trip to crappy tire and got a chev ex tip. got him thru the wknd, didnt seem down on power any. he was sporting a Hindle SW the next race
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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Shane661


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posted November 21, 2009 08:17 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Nov 2009 04:18
When I get it off the dyno I will post the results compared to what it pulled with the other pipe. And assuming the weather is good, we will see at the track next Saturday.

I wasn't expecting to race again this year, so I kind of got caught with my pants down...bike setup-wise.

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Bawls


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posted November 21, 2009 09:47 PM        
way to set the video to private asshole lol.
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osti33


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posted November 21, 2009 09:58 PM        
I got the same thing. Video is private. Can't watch it.
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Shane661


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posted November 22, 2009 02:26 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Nov 2009 10:46
quote:
way to set the video to private asshole lol.


Wow, tough crowd...

Now public, for your viewing and listening pleasure.

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Shane661


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posted November 22, 2009 07:08 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Nov 2009 15:10
I guess I should post the rest of the exhaust install pics:
















An exhaust that could only be improved with a $15 "3R Racing" exhaust tip. Perfection!!!

Shane

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Shane661


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posted November 22, 2009 07:14 AM        
Here is a comparison of the old Shortmeg, to the new CT:

Note the height of the primary tubes....definitely more clearance with CT:





As you can see, the bends of the exhaust are very similar. This indicates to me that Brock did not want to mess too much with a good thing. We already know the pipes make great power, so that is understandable.

Next I measured the exhaust spigots for both and the pipe ID for the new CT:

First, the Shortmeg header spigots:



Next the CT header spigot:



As you can see, the CT spigots are much larger. That is because the header pipes slide inside the spigot, instead of vice-versa. This eliminates any restriction.

In order for this to be useful, the CT header would have to be larger in ID than the standard spigots:



It is indeed about 2mm larger than the standard spigots. So, these new CT spigots will definitely remove a restriction. I imagine that this would really benefit a ported head or larger motor to an even greater extent.

Just to compare clearance, here are a couple of photos. In this first photo, the box pictured will not slide under the Shortmeg header...even though it has been flattened already:



Here you can see that it easily clears the header pipe on the CT:



There appears to be more than 1/2" additional clearance on the lower rightmost tube. The leftmost lower tube is not as big as an issue since it is in the center of bike and not as subject to contact during leaning.

Shane

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posted November 22, 2009 09:05 AM        
thanks shane nice to see creative options be sure to post those #s

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Shane661


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posted November 22, 2009 09:13 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Nov 2009 17:16
quote:
thanks shane nice to see creative options be sure to post those #s



Here are some dyno pulls from the bike, with two different setups:



The 176 hp pull (the 180 max is a spike) is pump gas, air filter, and Brock's smeg.

The 186 hp pull is MR9, no air filter, short stacks, Brock's header with Area P megaphone.

Both of those are with "off-the-rack" Brock's maps.

Anyone want to guess on what this new system will do with some tuning?

Shane

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posted November 22, 2009 09:58 AM        Edited By: osti33 on 22 Nov 2009 18:01
quote:
quote:
way to set the video to private asshole lol.


Wow, tough crowd...

Now public, for your viewing and listening pleasure.


Thanks Shane. Video works now.

That is a nice header. The tip is, well....I think you already said it.

Let us know how it goes at the track.

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Shane661


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posted November 22, 2009 10:12 AM        
quote:


That is a nice header. The tip is, well....I think you already said it.




I hear you man! I will be getting a custom muffler from Area P. Kerry and I have discussed it extensively, and I didn't think I would need it before winter. Think again, right?

Add that to the fact that I am literally running out of money...I figured I would spend the money I do have on good fuel and some tuning.

In the meantime, I will consider this an experiment to see how the bike responds to having no muffler at all.

Shane

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posted November 22, 2009 10:49 AM        
Dad said he didn't care if you ran the other exhaust. I guess you're just really anxious to run the CT lol :P. Good luck with the 8's.
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posted November 22, 2009 10:52 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Nov 2009 18:53
quote:
Dad said he didn't care if you ran the other exhaust. I guess you're just really anxious to run the CT lol :P. Good luck with the 8's.


I thought about it a lot. But since I am getting it tuned, I figured that using the CT header would be my best bet. That way I don't have to tear the bike back apart next weekend to remove the exhaust either. Plus I am very interested to see how it runs like this.

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posted November 22, 2009 07:00 PM        
Shane, are you skipping on a sidewinder type, because of the LSR stuff?
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posted November 22, 2009 09:54 PM        
I'm liking the tip!!!!!!!

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