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KZScott


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posted September 15, 2009 05:07 PM        
help with electronics?

ok, im not too up on the finer details of circuit boards... a couple general questions. i need to replace a resistor on a home made box(not my design) i have lots of room on it. i dont have the proper resistor, but i have a bunch! i can put 2 (or more?) in series to get the proper resistance correct? next big thing is im not exactly sure what i have. i bought a 40 pack, they arent labled, just colour coded. i googled but i want to double check i have the right ones. the target resistance is 24k ohms, but slightly lower is ok(just means not quite as much fuel is added, so that will limit the nitrous jetting slightly). listed on the back of the package, it shows that i have two of the following: 10, 22, 47, 100, 220, 330, 470, 1k, 2.2k, 3.3k, 4.7k, 10k, 22k, 33k, 47k, 100k, 220k, 330k, 470k, 1m
what colours do i need? thanks!

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Texas12R


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posted September 15, 2009 05:57 PM        

maybe this is good info

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Texas12R


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posted September 15, 2009 06:04 PM        
http://www.bcdxc.org/resistor_color_codes.htm
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Texas12R


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posted September 15, 2009 06:55 PM        
I really reserve the right to be wrong here!
Brown yellow red Red would be best
but I bet gold is more common or silver

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tcchin


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posted September 15, 2009 07:16 PM        Edited By: tcchin on 16 Sep 2009 03:18
Red - Yellow - Orange = 24k
Red - Red - Orange = 22k

Gold and silver tolerance bands are common at Radio Shack.

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posted September 15, 2009 09:06 PM        
DIVERSITY MOMENT

Warning!!!!! despicable historical practice Warning!!!!!

Obama did NOT approve this message

1970, Holy Cross College,
Worcester, Massachusetts
Laboratory Instrumentation Class
My Professor (also my Dad) gave this mnemonic:

0 - Black____black
1 - Boys____brown
2 - Rape____red
3 - Our______orange
4 - Young____yellow
5 - Girls_____green
6 - But______blue
7 - Violet____violet
8 - Gives____grey
9 - Willingly__white

times have changed, eh??
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whitehendrix


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posted September 16, 2009 12:59 AM        
yes you can series a resistors for the desired resistance.

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tcchin


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posted September 16, 2009 01:18 AM        
Or parallel them if you want to do the 1/r thing and drop the resistance.
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SteddyTeddy


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posted September 16, 2009 05:18 AM        
Got to love Violet! That's the exact way I learned it in tech school.
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entropy


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posted September 16, 2009 08:02 AM        
quote:
Got to love Violet! That's the exact way I learned it in tech school.


lbahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

me too, gotta love her, Violet is to be encouraged!!!

You must be an ole fart like me (or your tech school was diversity-challenged)
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SteddyTeddy


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posted September 16, 2009 08:10 AM        
Not old yet but getting there. A couple of my teachers were pretty good with tubes. lol
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salsa1


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posted September 16, 2009 10:11 AM        
An ohm meter (found in multimeter which mesures voltage and current also) can give you resistance values by measuring them....if that helps...

multimeter is a cheap item to get...comes in handy for AC and DC- voltage current and resistance values...and checking for continuity too!!....


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KZScott


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posted September 16, 2009 04:07 PM        
thanks a lot guys!
LOL Karl
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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KZScott


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posted September 17, 2009 02:33 PM        
can anyone give a little direction at the end of this thread please?
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=1&TID=26638&pagenumber=4
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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tcchin


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posted September 17, 2009 03:28 PM        
I think it's the one on the backside of the board. It looks like Yellow-Violet-Brown (470) to me, and it's soldered into the relay with the capacitor.

Seems like a lot of complexity just to toggle in some extra resistance. I'd probably do it differently, but then again, my electrical skills are about as sharp as a bowling ball.

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whitehendrix


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posted September 17, 2009 09:39 PM        
i dunno. looks more like a bleeder resistor..


scott, if you don't mind, explain to me in that thread what you're trying to accomplish..

unless it's buried in ther to read.
i just wanted a condensed version.


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posted September 18, 2009 07:15 PM        
dads bike has some "old school" electronics, and i put on a dry nitrous setup. im basically making a map switch feature like you can get for the newer PCusb. he has the old PC3R. when the nitrous is turned on, the little resistor box tricks the ecu into thinking the bike is really cold, and richens the fuel by about 20% if you are at normal operating temps.
no messing around with loading the "nitrous map" into the pc to do a N2O pass, then turn around to take it back out to run NA. i want to make this very user friendly as dad isnt so great with computers, and im busy enough at the track with my bike.
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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KZScott


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posted September 18, 2009 07:16 PM        
Sly emailed me back, its the one on the back like you said Tim.
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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tcchin


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posted September 19, 2009 12:29 AM        
Yay! I *knew* there was no such thing as a "bleeder resistor."
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whitehendrix


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posted September 20, 2009 07:29 PM        
Hmm.. i stand corrected then! lol

good deal.
still, looked like something to drain the cap :P

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KZScott


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posted September 20, 2009 07:44 PM        
the cap was to prevent the ecu from knowing the circuit was switched. no matter how fast you switch it, the ecu sees it unless you use a cap to give it a little voltage untill the connection is switched. if the ecu knows it was switched i believe it goes into limp mode. the cap prevents it
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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KZScott


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posted October 07, 2009 01:26 PM        
he decided to finish the rest of the season NA so i didnt hook it up. hes still getting used to driving it, and we are just focused on making the most of this setup before we add power. its been probly 20 yrs since dad owned a bike. its fast enough as is... for now
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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