zrexpilot
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posted April 17, 2009 09:23 AM
 Edited By: zrexpilot on 17 Apr 2009 17:38
VP fuel ?
so whats the recomendation on fuel for my 12
was thinking about motorsports 101 or 103
it unleaded fuel thats oxygenated and safe for nos. so they say
what about q 16
I would like something that made more power on motor but would work with spray.
  
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SteddyTeddy
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posted April 17, 2009 12:16 PM
For a big shot I would stay with the Q16. For smaller shots the MS 101 and 103 work fine. I've run the MS101 with a 50 shot in the past.
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posted April 17, 2009 03:10 PM
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posted April 17, 2009 04:34 PM
come on NOX help me out. I have been reading about all their fuels and its a bit confusing.
for instance street blaze103 claims up to 25lbs of boost but is only 103 octane and is oxygenated..
Man they have a lot of fuels.
guys chime in please.
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posted April 17, 2009 04:50 PM
Edited By: CrotchRocket on 18 Apr 2009 00:51
zrex, for the 12 what size motor, using how much nitrous???
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posted April 17, 2009 04:51 PM
Mario, i ran 90 hp(jetting, no dyno) on 91 octane. prepped pistons and combustion chambers. very rich, lots of timing pulled. octane is over rated 
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posted April 17, 2009 04:51 PM
quote:
zrex, for the 12? and what size motor, using nitrous???
1287 w/cams
80hp shot? going bigger?
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posted April 17, 2009 06:55 PM
ya 1287 ,cams and around an 80 shot I believe, will no exactly when I go to the dyno.
I ran last year on stock motor with c-12 but it made no power on motor alone, and was lazy. It made 227 with 4-20 jets I went to 4-24 jets but didnt dyno, my guess was 247 by the hp increases we were making as we were stepping up in jet sizes. On tear down everything looked fooking good, cept the 3 bent exhaust valves. I dont want to be changing fuels if I decide to spray. I have the ignition module so I can pull timing if needed, I also run the 10 plugs with the ground strap cut very short. The only problem now is I have the bigger motor so I am running a richer map, I dont know if I have enough room left on fuel, for the 4-24 jets , it will be close because I was around 85% duty cycle on the 4 -20 jets, Its going to be close. If I have enough fuel it should be aroun 260-280 hp depending if this new motor breaths better.
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posted April 18, 2009 01:42 AM
Get the VP mrx01... Its 98 octane
Its as potent as mr9, but made for big motor bikes...
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posted April 18, 2009 04:06 AM
whats the trick to bumping fuel pressure and does this work to get a little more fuel for NOS
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posted April 18, 2009 08:41 AM
u4.2
I run 123 mph in the 1/8 stock motor
or get q 16, or mrxo1
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posted April 18, 2009 03:19 PM
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whats the trick to bumping fuel pressure and does this work to get a little more fuel for NOS
run regulated co2 or whatever to the fuel regulator(the vac line). this gives the spring an extra boost in power and raises the fuel pressure. play with the regulated air pressure to adjust AFR. talk to Kevin Kadby (sp?) I think he works for MPS now??
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00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted April 19, 2009 05:08 PM
thats an interesting trick.
makes me want an injected bike to experiment on!!
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posted April 19, 2009 06:44 PM
my bike has the regulator in the tank.
I ran the bike last night and wasnt to impressed. 9.26 @147 on pump gas
First time on the bike in 8 months, the air was so thick you could cut it, 70dg and 70% humidity. Hoping that was the problem
my tire is old and hard, if I launched it hard it would spin the tire
60ft was 1.49
will post next time I run
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posted April 20, 2009 03:06 AM
How much do you weigh? That mph seems a little low...
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posted April 20, 2009 04:49 AM
I am 170lbs.
This is basically what it use to run in the 1/4, in good air it actually went 9.21@149
I am hoping it was the air and coupled with me not riding in 8 months.
Cant figure it out, it made 20 more HP on the dyno.
I figure it should run about 150- 151 mph
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posted April 20, 2009 05:22 AM
Front half is your riding and set up,
1/8 to the quarter....., that will really show the power output.......
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posted April 20, 2009 07:28 AM
Edited By: CrotchRocket on 20 Apr 2009 15:32
Your still riding the same, so you will still get the same et and mph...
If you bog the 12 too much then your MPH will be down!!!
Hold on to the clutch a little more as you twist the throttle, but do it faster than before...
Whats the track elevation???
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posted April 20, 2009 02:32 PM
Part of that is true, but even if it gets a bad launch, it will still back half harder if it makes more power......
Look at old time slips and compare, did it gain anything at the intervals, gotta do some math there though.......
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posted April 20, 2009 03:40 PM
No lockup yet????? Whats was your normal good 60` time....If you can get it off the line better with this new motor, it should show up on the topend... I know your fighting not getting a lockup, but..............................
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posted April 20, 2009 04:17 PM
He cannot run a lock up in the class he runs......., its against the rules.......
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posted April 20, 2009 04:40 PM
should look into the hydraulic setup the Parnell guys made(over in the UK). way stronger piece than oem. they have one for a lockup, but just shorten the design for stock with hd springs
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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