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posted January 19, 2009 06:46 AM
tool question???
I am looking for an air or electric driven 1/4 or 3/8" drive which will fit into kinda tight places.
Preferably 1/4" drive.
Specifically to remove cam cover, spark plugs, oil pan.
The oil pan is particularly a PITA with its 76(seems like) lil bolts/cap screws
Any suggestions out there?
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ninja12
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posted January 19, 2009 07:17 AM
!/4 air rachet, This is what I have. Works great.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34900
Karl , maybe you can kill one with your science project, but it's lasted a couple years for me.
more options.
http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=air+rachet
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posted January 19, 2009 02:37 PM
http://www.arizonatools.com/tools/cordless-tools/detail/IRR140/
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posted January 19, 2009 02:48 PM
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posted January 19, 2009 05:30 PM
If I have the motor on a stand, I use a cordless drill on a low torque setting......., makes less noise.........
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posted January 19, 2009 06:04 PM
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The oil pan is particularly a PITA with its 76(seems like) lil bolts/cap screws
Any suggestions out there?
Can you replace the fasteners with socket-head cap screws and use a T-handle to spin them out? As for the plugs, once they're loose, you should be able to spin them out by hand. Why the need to use power-assisted tools? I'm not a very big fan of using power tools on aluminum threads.
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posted January 19, 2009 08:32 PM
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http://www.arizonatools.com/tools/cordless-tools/detail/IRR140/
I like that, no air line in the way!
How is the battery life?
Enough power for clutch springs?
If only I had the money for more tools.
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posted January 19, 2009 08:39 PM
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http://www.arizonatools.com/tools/cordless-tools/detail/IRR140/
I like that, no air line in the way!
How is the battery life?
Enough power for clutch springs?
If only I had the money for more tools.
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posted January 19, 2009 10:44 PM
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http://www.arizonatools.com/tools/cordless-tools/detail/IRR140/
PERFECT! Thanks JC!
Thanks to other folk for responses; the air ratchet would do it but make a buncha noise and have the hose to trip over.
What i need is the ability to get into tight spaces, no room for a T handle.
Yep, plugs, oil pan cap screws(Koenig pan) or bolts (OEM pan) and cam cap bolts can easily be done by hand, but my motor is in n' out so often i have the need for speed. A zipper would be best.
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posted January 19, 2009 10:58 PM
For clutch springs, use a cordless drill on the 8 setting.......
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posted January 20, 2009 03:41 AM
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For clutch springs, use a cordless drill on the 8 setting.......
yep
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posted January 20, 2009 03:43 AM
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For clutch springs, use a cordless drill on the 8 setting.......
yep
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posted January 20, 2009 04:19 AM
this will save me some time!
what setting do you use for the cover? (want to eliminate the torque wrench from clutch tuning)
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posted January 20, 2009 04:31 AM
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this will save me some time!
what setting do you use for the cover? (want to eliminate the torque wrench from clutch tuning)
just do it by feel, neither the srews that hold the pressure plate on or the cover on are tq sensitive, just don't overdo it.
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posted January 20, 2009 04:45 AM
im good at breaking stuff when i dont use a torque wrench. i think its genetic... 
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posted January 20, 2009 05:31 AM
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im good at breaking stuff when i dont use a torque wrench. i think its genetic...
Me too!
i am (now) good at inserts!
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posted January 20, 2009 06:39 AM
I use a t handle wrench, and just get them snug....., when I put em back on, I set it on 6. RYOBI 12 V. Not too heavy, and like 38 dollars at HD, with two batteries
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posted January 20, 2009 07:57 AM
i use a ryobi at work some times, usually one of the 18v dewalts. got to use a tiny 12v makita once that worked suprisingly well. it had an impact setting that would put a 3.5in screw in as good as the non impact 18v dewalt
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00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted January 20, 2009 01:16 PM
My personal habit is to always use a very light setting in the power tool and ALWAYS final hand tighten (or torque) the fastener. There is no substitute for developing a mechanics feel to judge the integrity of a threaded fastener.
In my dealership this was the rule.
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posted January 20, 2009 01:22 PM
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My personal habit is to always use a very light setting in the power tool and ALWAYS final hand tighten (or torque) the fastener. There is no substitute for developing a mechanics feel to judge the integrity of a threaded fastener.
In my dealership this was the rule.
D.
I learned that lesson on the cam cap bolts.
I have had them off n on so many times they started, 1 by 1, necking.
By doing a light tightening with the power drill, then tightening/tqing, i could feel when a bolt started to neck and back it out before it separated.
After a few of em i bought a whole new set,
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posted January 28, 2009 02:22 PM
Wal-mart has a SKILL brand of that battery powered 1/4 rachet for $25 on clearance.
Probably not as good, but I couldn't resist.
Hopefully I won't need it very much this year.
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posted January 28, 2009 02:34 PM
 Edited By: NINJA12 on 28 Jan 2009 22:34
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7812621
it comes with the battery and charger.
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