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posted January 09, 2009 03:05 PM
small fuel cells
I want to get a slightly bigger tank for my wet kit (small tank for C-16). I was using a small gas tank I got from a chainsaw shop off of a tiller or leaf blower or something allong those lines lol. I want something safer. something about 1.5 litres. aluminum would be nice, but a certified plastic tank would work too. any ideas? Jegs has 1 gal tanks. they are too big 
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posted January 09, 2009 03:33 PM
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posted January 09, 2009 04:33 PM
thx Mike. ill hold off on a custom setup for a bit. Im friends with an excellent tig welder that works with big industrial stuff, a lot of aluminum. I would probly get him to weld up a custom tank i design if i go that route. its a day trip to get to his shop though. (he did the oil pans i made)
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 09, 2009 05:07 PM
mock it up with card board.........mail me the pieces along with instructions......
Ill tig it up.......and mail it back to you....... 
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posted January 09, 2009 05:39 PM
seriously? as the dr would put it, im the King of Kardboard lol. i have lots of sheet aluminum i can cut up to make it out of. the cap would then be the problem. i need some sort of vented cap...
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 09, 2009 05:48 PM
Check a big RC model shop or catalog. Planes, cars, boats...etc.
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posted January 09, 2009 08:01 PM
anyone use something like this?
http://www.fullborerace.com/fuelcaps_filler_bungs.html
I assume the fuel caps are vented?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 09, 2009 08:37 PM
 Edited By: osti33 on 10 Jan 2009 04:38
Scott,
I have a Full Bore cap on my tank that I made for my bike. It is a great cap with a nice o-ring seal but the cap is not vented. It isn't a big deal.
What I did when I made the tank was weld a small NPT bung on the top of the tank then just put in a 90 degree fitting with a barb type end and run a small piece of rubber fuel hose somewhere towards the ground.
Problem solved.
I suppose you could drill and tap the cap itself if you really wanted to.
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posted January 09, 2009 09:17 PM
Thanks Ryan. that passes tech at LSR events too eh?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 09, 2009 09:55 PM
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Thanks Ryan. that passes tech at LSR events too eh?
Yep. No problems with tech to date.
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posted January 09, 2009 10:35 PM
thx!
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 09, 2009 11:47 PM
Scott, with your skills, You should be able to make a full light weight cardboard tank.
Also, I was thinking,
how long would it take you to fab me some cardboard wheels......, they would blow BST's out of business............
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posted January 09, 2009 11:55 PM
Edited By: KZScott on 10 Jan 2009 08:01
give me a couple days and ill see what i can do.... might have to break out the paper mashe lol
want a design for the stock battery location?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 10, 2009 03:15 AM
Yep, Im serious......It would be the fastest fuel cell I ever built.....
Those caps dont look vented.....but that shouldnt be a problem....just add a hose barb and a vent line ....right?
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posted January 10, 2009 06:04 AM
i'm looking at getting some kind of cell built for the part of the frame were the battery is. my tank is all ready cut down to right where the bracket for the tank cover is. i got to lift the tank up to fill it up with gas. but i have been thinking about how i could cut every thing else out and just leave the shell. but i would like to some how lower it down about 1to 2in. its going to be tricky getting it and the tank cover and seat to line back up were it all still looks stock.
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posted January 10, 2009 09:02 AM
so what would you want for your trouble?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 10, 2009 10:13 AM
quote:
i'm looking at getting some kind of cell built for the part of the frame were the battery is. my tank is all ready cut down to right where the bracket for the tank cover is. i got to lift the tank up to fill it up with gas. but i have been thinking about how i could cut every thing else out and just leave the shell. but i would like to some how lower it down about 1to 2in. its going to be tricky getting it and the tank cover and seat to line back up were it all still looks stock.
have you thought about just doing a half tank like the one in this thread?
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=1&TID=33254
just fills up like a normal tank. keeps the stock look with plastics on
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 10, 2009 02:28 PM
Scott I just thought it would be a way to lend a hand
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posted January 10, 2009 03:04 PM
so no cash then?
I definately appreciate help! Ill have to get a design mocked up 
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 10, 2009 04:11 PM
i have some polished aluminum dimond plate left over from when i made dads undertail i could use instead of the plain 1/8 aluminum.... this could be a really nice looking tank!
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 10, 2009 05:07 PM
another great reason to have a syncrowave sitting at the shop.
i miss out on all the fun.
.125 would be a little thinker than you need IMO, unless it'll be subjected to some sort of physical regulatory crap for abuse..
i have some .090 sheet that i'll fab my intake manifold with. i think its a 5 series aluminum.. very bendable, decent tensile strength, creep, modulus and all those metallurgy goodies..
would carbon fiber with a bladder hold up? you wanna go light AND pretty, THERES your ticket!!
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posted January 10, 2009 06:06 PM
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i'm looking at getting some kind of cell built for the part of the frame were the battery is. my tank is all ready cut down to right where the bracket for the tank cover is. i got to lift the tank up to fill it up with gas. but i have been thinking about how i could cut every thing else out and just leave the shell. but i would like to some how lower it down about 1to 2in. its going to be tricky getting it and the tank cover and seat to line back up were it all still looks stock.
have you thought about just doing a half tank like the one in this thread?
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=1&TID=33254
just fills up like a normal tank. keeps the stock look with plastics on
all ready cut mine down like that. but i used the stock gas cap. and drilled holes in every thing i could that cant be seen.
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posted January 10, 2009 07:32 PM
maybe you could give me a price break on one of those "rookie of the year "
autographed posters..... :bigsmile
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posted January 10, 2009 07:45 PM
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another great reason to have a syncrowave sitting at the shop.
i miss out on all the fun.
.125 would be a little thinker than you need IMO, unless it'll be subjected to some sort of physical regulatory crap for abuse..
i have some .090 sheet that i'll fab my intake manifold with. i think its a 5 series aluminum.. very bendable, decent tensile strength, creep, modulus and all those metallurgy goodies..
would carbon fiber with a bladder hold up? you wanna go light AND pretty, THERES your ticket!!
I want a tig too
1/8 is overkill, but its what i have lying around  CF would be the hot ticket, but too much other stuff to buy....Its probly going to be hidden in the tail anyway. i dont like the idea of hanging a nitrous or co2 bottle off the side of my bike, so i have to put them in the swingarm or in the tail.
I have tons of room in the +6in tail for a good sized gas tank big enough for LSR use. last yr i hid a 2 pound nitrous bottle in there with most of my electronics, a fuel pump, and small tank. im upgrading to a 5 pounder and its going in the arm where the co2 bottle was. ill put the co2 bottle in the tail and have room for a bigger fuel tank with room to spare.
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 10, 2009 07:57 PM
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maybe you could give me a price break on one of those "rookie of the year "
autographed posters..... :bigsmile
its actually a 23x18in plaque but i only have the one
i had a guy make some of these as stickers a yr ago 2x5in (I had a 2x5ft race banner made too for about $55)
im not sure if i have any stickers left, but if you want one ill look around and can throw it in the box
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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