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posted April 23, 2008 01:08 PM
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BTW, good looking son you have there! 
You bringing him too? You know us gals don't mind a little non-tfa eye candy while we're waiting in line to run dontcha know!  
Deb
Yep,
No only is #1 Son Alex more-handsomer than me, he definitely takes after my latin wife (not me) I hope to bring him.
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posted April 23, 2008 01:11 PM
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...June Meet is usually Hot Humid and SLow.
bahahahahahahahaha
us Texas folk LOVE hot & humid, just promise us a 20mph headwind so we can feel at home.
Common Vince put on that TFA T shirt and get on down there in June!
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posted April 23, 2008 01:50 PM
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BTW, good looking son you have there!
You bringing him too? You know us gals don't mind a little non-tfa eye candy while we're waiting in line to run dontcha know!
Deb
Yep,
No only is #1 Son Alex more-handsomer than me, he definitely takes after my latin wife (not me) I hope to bring him.
Like I said to Randall once! His mother gave him all of the things necessary to be successful in the USA (Blond Hair and Blue Eyes along with tall and thin) 
Maybe I will spend some Big money and come to see you guys!
What I cannot understand is if the way you always run has a Head Wind, then why not run the Other way?
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posted April 23, 2008 01:52 PM
 Edited By: VincentHill on 23 Apr 2008 14:53
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It would be real cool if you could drop by Mr. Hill, I'll spring for $40 and a BBQ sandwich.
Plus don't count us old fat guys out. We are banking on low crowds and we are use to the heat and humidity, well Karl is anyway living in Mo City. Plus he has run at Houston Raceway Park in the dead of summer, thats saying alot.
I think I can "SCRAPE" the Gas and a Days inn It will be no different than driving my van when the gas was $2.00 per gallon! I can wear my race leathers and at least look the part!
BTW, I Really know the places to eat there! Capt Larry where Dan and I eat !
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posted April 23, 2008 02:42 PM
This is getting better and better. I love it when a plan comes together. 
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posted April 23, 2008 06:51 PM
Wish the Texas Mile could be run backwards, but there is an active run way right by the start so if anyone ran a little long they would be running into it. They have talked about having another event at the other runway like hot air balloons or something in the possible hopes of maybe running things a little different, but for now It'll stay as is. The winds are not as bad in the summer, but the heat will leave you decimated! Octobers winds are always a little better than march, but then its still usually a little toasty (90's).
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posted April 24, 2008 02:24 AM
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This is getting better and better. I love it when a plan comes together.
yep!
what about hotel??
you KNOW i like to get that sorted out early.
Gary and I are gonna DO IT!!!
Gary: have you talked to Cheese lately?
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posted April 24, 2008 04:26 AM
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This is getting better and better. I love it when a plan comes together.
yep!
what about hotel??
you KNOW i like to get that sorted out early.
Gary and I are gonna DO IT!!!
Gary: have you talked to Cheese lately?
Area hotels are listed here.
http://www.ecta-lsr.com/?page_id=43
They range from no-tell motel to cushy "high dollar" Holiday Inn. If you post your hotel needs/priorities we can steer you in the right direction.
Also, this page has a lot of good guidlines for running at Maxton if you haven't been there before:
http://www.ecta-lsr.com/?page_id=53
Deb
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posted April 24, 2008 05:51 AM
I'll probably see JC late Sat., spoke to him on Monday about Santana, Undertaker's bike. JC might have a buyer for it. I'll let him know TFA is making a road trip, unless you wanted to spring it on him. Your powers of persuasion seem to be much greater than mine (DM). JC has been looking at putting the hairdryer back on the old copper top, might give him a little motivation.
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posted April 24, 2008 01:34 PM
There is a Holiday Inn Express and Hampton Inn in Laurinburg (Plus a few others that a lot of peoplke stay at but I will have to stay at the ElCheapo for about $40 maybe less at Days in Rowlins NC at the SC Border! Maybe I can keep the Bed Bugs off with this spray I heard of With about $80 for Fuel and $80 for Hotel and $40 to eat I can do this for about $200 and have a good ride and Volunter my time at the track! (Something I have wanted to do for a long time) I am figuring $4.00 per gallon and 40 to 45 MPG on the Bike! The ZRX 1100 with a Sheep Skin does real well!
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posted April 29, 2008 06:00 AM
I have a few questions at may seem stupid, but I just want to make sure I have things straight.
1. In the Rules 7.B.21 Nitrous Oxide Systems: the statement, "Nitrous oxide installations must provide crash protection for the bottle shut off valve" is marked out. Does this mean
that if we run our bottles on the out side of the frame, subframe, swingarm, and hang the bottle on the side where the passenger peg was then we do not have to put one of those Tiger Racing nitrous bottle caps as crash protection on the on/off valve?
2. Do I have my classification correct? I will be running nitrous and I am also over 1350cc.
MPS/F-1650/4
Thanks,
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posted April 29, 2008 08:15 AM
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I have a few questions at may seem stupid, but I just want to make sure I have things straight.
1. In the Rules 7.B.21 Nitrous Oxide Systems: the statement, "Nitrous oxide installations must provide crash protection for the bottle shut off valve" is marked out. Does this mean
that if we run our bottles on the out side of the frame, subframe, swingarm, and hang the bottle on the side where the passenger peg was then we do not have to put one of those Tiger Racing nitrous bottle caps as crash protection on the on/off valve?
2. Do I have my classification correct? I will be running nitrous and I am also over 1350cc.
MPS/F-1650/4
Thanks,
Gary
YOU DO Understand! My Bottle is Internal so I need nothing! If your bottle is Outside where the bottle can take a Hit you need the cap protector
Modified Partial Streamlining / Fuel 1650 / 4 is correct for over 1350 CC's
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posted April 30, 2008 04:36 AM
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I have a few questions at may seem stupid, but I just want to make sure I have things straight.
1. In the Rules 7.B.21 Nitrous Oxide Systems: the statement, "Nitrous oxide installations must provide crash protection for the bottle shut off valve" is marked out. Does this mean
that if we run our bottles on the out side of the frame, subframe, swingarm, and hang the bottle on the side where the passenger peg was then we do not have to put one of those Tiger Racing nitrous bottle caps as crash protection on the on/off valve?
2. Do I have my classification correct? I will be running nitrous and I am also over 1350cc.
MPS/F-1650/4
Thanks,
Gary
1. You are correct Gary, that protection is not REQUIRED. With that said... protection of the valve is reccomended, BUT by doing so we'd rather you not restrict access to the valve itself so it allows one of the first responders (or yourself) to shut the bottle off without carrying a tool kit in his pocket. This is also why an internal bottle needs visibly marked externally to let it be known where that bottle resides for shut off and protection of the rescue squad.
Examples of both of these are in this picture:
IE: if you don't make some quick thumb screws like in that pic ( or some kind of quick access to the shut off valve), I'd reccomend you at least duct tape the allen wrench that comes with protector from Guy, or the necessary minimum tools to allow quick access.
Does that makes sense?
PS: Vincent (and others), please familiarize yourself with the new rules as many are nothing like we've had in the last decade.
2. Your class would be correct Gary (as long as you'r under 1650cc of course).
Feel free to call me for more info or clarification if needed as you desire. My number is on the contact page of the ECTA website, and please leave a message if I don't pick up (I'm a one man band here at the shop and usually have my hands full) - I will call you back as soon as possible if I don't get to the phone before you hang up.
By the way, Landracing.com (when it's up), and the ECTA Yahoo group (linked on the ECTA site), will usually net a faster online response to ECTA questions... they are both full of regulars, volunteers and officials.
Looking forward to seeing one and all,
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posted April 30, 2008 05:42 AM
Thank you all much. Just sent my ECTA membership application in. I'll be sending out my registration in a bit for late June meet in a couple weeks. Starting to get a little excited. I do not expect to go too fast, just get the mandatory trial runs down then maybe one or two all out runs................................................. maybe upper 190's to 200mph if I'm lucky.
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posted April 30, 2008 01:08 PM
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Thank you all much. Just sent my ECTA membership application in. I'll be sending out my registration in a bit for late June meet in a couple weeks. Starting to get a little excited. I do not expect to go too fast, just get the mandatory trial runs down then maybe one or two all out runs................................................. maybe upper 190's to 200mph if I'm lucky.
I still need to send in my registration for June as well. I did manage to get all of my license passes done in April. Now I just hope to get my A license this time.
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posted April 30, 2008 04:47 PM
I am getting ready to do the same thing and send in my membership and race license! I would be interested to see if they still prefer someone chain to be caught in the chain guard and lock up the rear wheel as opposed to just leaving the bike?
Other than that I cannot imagine what they did that I already do not have! (Shaved tires?)
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posted April 30, 2008 08:05 PM
Edited By: narider on 30 Apr 2008 21:07
No one at the ECTA would ever "prefer" that Vincent (and I would sure hope you don't truly believe that), they would however prefer that the written rules are abided by as best as possible, while being done in a workmanship like manner.
I'm not sure of the specifics of your situation (and will apologize on behalf of the organization if you feel you were unfailry treated, especially when it comes to a safety issue), but I can assure you that the insinuation is not appreciatted by "those" that are part of the "they" you're refering to!
By the way, you don't have to imagine... as all but the General Competition Requirements are right here online for you until you decide to get the rulebook in your hand (again, I highly reccomend it!). http://twinjugsracing.com/ecta08mcrules.htm
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posted May 01, 2008 01:15 AM
Todd
as long as you are being so helpful & all...
i will be running a 1427 NA, stock looking zx12 w/cut tank, stock fairings etc
what class would that be?
thanks,
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posted May 01, 2008 03:53 AM
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Hi Karl,
Generalizing a little bit here, and looking at the class designation back to front.... something I've found the easiet way to pick the classes someone qualifies to run in.
You'd be in the 1650cc engine class.
You'll be in the Gas class as long as you run track supplied gasoline.
You'll be Partially Streamlined with your fairing on.
You'll be either Modified or Altered due to your tank alone (depends on it's size along with a whole group of other criteria about your bike found in 7.F).
Sooo.... your class choices (edit: as a base class) at this point would be:
MPS/G-1650/4 *
APS/G-1650/4 **
* = Your base class
** = Your base class if you're not legal for rules in 7.F
Change the "G" to an "F" if you don't run track supplied gasoline.
Feel free to call me if there's anything you don't understand as far as qualifying to run in Modified (or for any reason of course).
Looking forward to seeing you,
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posted May 01, 2008 04:27 AM
Todd
wow! thanks for the complete answer, i owe you a beer!!
looks like my bike is prob:
MPS/F-1650/4
or
APS/F-1650/4
i sent in my membership and now i'll send in my pre-registration
thanks again,
karl
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posted May 01, 2008 04:30 AM
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Todd
wow! thanks for the complete answer, i owe you a beer!!
looks like my bike is prob:
MPS/F-1650/4
or
APS/F-1650/4
i sent in my membership and now i'll send in my pre-registration
thanks again,
karl
No problem, that's what I'm here for.
I stated gas classes as you said you were going to run NA. Or are you going to run fuel class because you're bringing your own gas?
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posted May 01, 2008 05:14 AM
Karl, As far ad Gasoline goes you can have your own gas in the tank and get some of their it is the seal on the gas cap that makes this valid! You do not have to drain out your old fuel and only their fuel!
I would also look at the records and see if you are better off in ALtered or Modified and then "SEE" if you fit the class! Your tank is still a stock tank but "MODIFIED"!
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posted May 01, 2008 05:39 AM
Karl, maybe you can have a 5 gallon bucket shipped directly from VP to them or see who the track supplier is and have them bring 5 gallons of the Gasoline you want so that you can run in the G class instead of running against nitrous bikes.
Curious what types of fuel are usually available?
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posted May 01, 2008 05:41 AM
Vincent, please stop giving out erroneous information. Whether you get caught doing what you're saying is one thing.. the fact is if you do what you're saying... YOU'RE CHEATING!
Integrity, is doing the right thing when no one else is watching you.
BTW, the tank is only modified if it holds more then 1.25 gallons of gas.
Todd
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posted May 01, 2008 05:53 AM
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Karl, maybe you can have a 5 gallon bucket shipped directly from VP to them or see who the track supplier is and have them bring 5 gallons of the Gasoline you want so that you can run in the G class instead of running against nitrous bikes.
That's what I was approaching actually, and it's much easier. If it's because of the type of gas he's bringing(IE: VP's products)... simply bring it with you in it's facotry sealed container, give it to our gas guy along with some cash (maybe $20?) for his time (he only shows up if he's making $ one way or another's of course), and then he can fill and seal your tank as you need it. This is a legal way to run your own gas you're tuning with and stay in a gas class (as long as it is a recognized manufacturer's gas in their original sealed container when you hand it to our gas guy.
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Curious what types of fuel are usually available?
Here's somehting I wrote up awhile back and put out in the ECTA group.
ECTA supplied fuel is Sunoco brand & will be here on fridays.
The below on-site products comply with gas classes.
The unleaded octanes are 100(260GT) & 104(260GT Plus)
http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/Consumer/RaceFuels/UnleadedFuels
The leaded octanes are 110(The Standard) & 116(Maximal).
http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/Consumer/RaceFuels/TraditionalFuels
If you have special needs, contact Mike at as early as possible at
mike@gladiatorperformance.com
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