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posted January 30, 2008 04:29 PM
Extended puller...
I just found out that Schnitz Perf. is selling the extended puller we need(Muzzy or MTC) for the Lockups...About $84.00...Not to bad at all...I had a machinist here in town make me one for $140.00.Setup,design,ect.ect..One off for them....Just ordered one for just in case...
Part # is MZ200-PR $83.94....
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posted January 30, 2008 05:05 PM
Yeah, but if it is a muzzy piece, the end will break off, and get into your motor........
What happened to the one I sent you that was built out of tool steel?
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posted January 30, 2008 05:39 PM
Clutch Release Rod for Kawasaki ZX-12 with Muzzy lock up - Muzzys
For Use With Muzzys Lock-up Only
its not for the MTC
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posted January 30, 2008 06:01 PM
MTC
CLU-CC516 ZX-12 Modified Release Shaft
$46.35
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 30, 2008 06:42 PM
Oh ok,I never saw one of the MTC rods...Must be a big difference???Alot cheaper I see....
NOX , It didn't break,but was fixin to pop the top off...Musta got my stack hght off at some time or another...Cause I don't putt it in much at all...Around town you gotta pull it in at all the stop lights and signs...
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posted January 30, 2008 08:31 PM
Paul, did you try taking some weights off for street use and adding a couple HD springs?
easy to change it back to 1/4 mile mode at the track....
MTC rod:
got the lock up 1290NOS was using(still havent tried it as i got it after fukked the trans).
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 31, 2008 06:07 AM
The mtc rod and muzzy rod are different lengths........
Paul has my old modded muzzy set up..........
Trust me, weight is not the issue on his set up if he still has it like I told him to have it.........
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posted January 31, 2008 07:31 AM
Yup still have it the same way...Not a problem on the street....Not a problem on the track....Just when on the street having to pull in the lever at ALL those damm stop lights in town....Seems like it ground down the tip of the puller,or a faulty rod through the clutch cover,maybe it had a burr on it....
Thanks,
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posted January 31, 2008 12:10 PM
I trust your judgement dr nox, but i was just remembering a post by I think VH that stated he ran a lock up without any weights on the street, and added weights to stop clutch slip for a top end run(not tuned for the 1/4 mile)
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 31, 2008 12:14 PM
so which is longer? the mtc or the muzzy? could someone shim or machine the spacer to get the other brand of rod to work?
if the mtc rods are better (and since they are cheaper), i would think it would be something to look into if i had a muzzy lock up
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 31, 2008 03:34 PM
Just get the mtc spacer for the cover, that is the determining factor........
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posted January 31, 2008 04:08 PM
there ya go paul, dont mess around with the muzzy rods, get the mtc spacer and rod. the rest of it is working fine by your 60' times
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 31, 2008 04:49 PM
 Edited By: stuart racing on 31 Jan 2008 16:50
Hey there ya go...Good idea....Rod are 1/2 the price of Muzzy's...Excellant.spacer's probably $75.00 or so...I'll check it out....
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posted January 31, 2008 05:30 PM
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posted January 31, 2008 06:41 PM
CLU-CC518 ZX-12 Lock up clutch cover spacer
81.15
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 01, 2008 05:53 AM
Edited By: NOX on 1 Feb 2008 05:55
hmm, looks like the problem with the muzzy lock ups just got fixed............
assuming that everything else is the same.........
I know that if you have a muzzy, and switch to an mtc, it will change your static pressure a little.........., not alot, but a little, and a little goes a LOONNNGGG way on a lock up.......
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posted February 01, 2008 06:46 AM
hey Paul, want to measure how thick your spacer is? ill to the same to the mtc i have and we can compare. instead of buying the mtc spacer, you might just be able to use a couple extra gaskets, or maybe get it milled down the right amount if its cheaper...
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 01, 2008 01:26 PM
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hey Paul, want to measure how thick your spacer is? ill to the same to the mtc i have and we can compare. instead of buying the mtc spacer, you might just be able to use a couple extra gaskets, or maybe get it milled down the right amount if its cheaper...
I came up with 30mm's in width.....If the MTC'S puller is made better or the same as the Muzzy's, we'll be lookin sweet...huh...
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posted February 01, 2008 02:21 PM
It is WAY better.......
it is not machined hollow on the end........, like the muzzy is...........
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posted February 01, 2008 03:19 PM
Cool, thats what we want isn't it....I wonder if they sell that bearing support in the cover seperate....
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posted February 01, 2008 03:23 PM
because muzzy tried to copy the mtc set up, it did not originally come like that..........
The lock up hat and spacer are great, the rest of the system they messed up on......
but, if you ask Kurt, ......its your fault, every time........
Rob really needs a customer service talk with his people.........
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posted February 02, 2008 01:09 PM
Paul, Nox, I got 38.25mm on the MTC spacer. looks like too much to shim with extra gaskets..... getting the mtc spacer and pull rod looks like the way to go, just make sure you have the bearing in the cover
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted February 02, 2008 04:59 PM
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Paul, Nox, I got 38.25mm on the MTC spacer. looks like too much to shim with extra gaskets..... getting the mtc spacer and pull rod looks like the way to go, just make sure you have the bearing in the cover
Wow,38.25mm....Little bit thicker..How much clearance is there when you slide your puller into the bearing in the cover...I have one in my cover but seems like there is too much clearance to do much of anything as far as support...One time my puller came disconnected inside the cover,and all the bearing did was keep the puller from falling into the cover/bottomend...Let me know if you can Scott,ok...
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posted February 02, 2008 11:16 PM
ill check it out in the morning, i think its quite a bit if i remember. i would think it should be tighter, but i tend to like things that way.....haha
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 03, 2008 03:24 PM
how does the muzzy bearing compare to this? (the metal dust is from me making the cover and the spacer fit together without any seems on the outside to make it smooth)
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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