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KZScott


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posted January 25, 2008 09:51 AM        
got the head back from the machine shop. im not sure what to think. i told them to take .005 off of it, and its still kind of pitted, and im not sure if its a little too rough or not???




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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
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posted January 25, 2008 10:03 AM        
KZ

no don´t think so ! looks fine ! new gasket ! and it works !

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KZScott


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posted February 05, 2008 01:43 PM        
thx

was just talking to Mark at R&D about my trans. he got it fluxed and called me. 4th input gear had a couple little marks on it 2 teeth, but he thought it was fine to be used again. he said it looked like a little scratch about .010" by .030". also 3 of the gears had dog rounded off so bad that their wasnt enough metal to work with for a back cut. that means replace or go with a hardweld on the dogs. Mark and I agree that the trans didnt have an easy life LOL. im going with a hardweld as he told me new stock gears are $125 each and its $7 to weld one dog
grand total so far: $1392 (plus shipping)
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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krexken


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posted February 05, 2008 02:51 PM        
Ouch! $1392 just in the tranny?

What caused the pitting on the head? That's weird. Don't think it'll affect sealilng either. Nice job in the chambers. What did you use to get than finish.

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KZScott


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posted February 05, 2008 03:02 PM        
yup, but i shouldnt have to worry about it now. all billet ouput gears except 5th and 6th, flux, HD clip mod, shift drum mod, back cut, hardweld damaged dogs....
im not sure about the pitting. i want to blame the easy off, but im not really sure, ill do a test on some scrap chunk of aluminum thats pretty much polished(extra from making dads undertail) to find out. i was really careful putting the easy off on the chambers of dads head just incase....
same thing on the chambers as the ports, 180 grit sandpaper on a dremmel wheel. i hit it with a power ball and polishing compound too(just the cc) but i didnt notice any change. im guessing i would have to use much finer grit before polishing compound would really do anything


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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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stuart racing


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posted February 05, 2008 04:19 PM        
Well you'll have one hell of a killer transmission Scott....But you've spent your money wisely and in ALL the right places,way to go...$1400.00 tranny...I've spent $1800.00 on one of my dragbikes trans.'s...Head,crank, trans.,Piston prep,are ALL area's not to scrimp on....IMO...
I hate missed shifts, noisey,leaky,ect.ect,Cyl. head, Sloppy crank....
Keep up the good work brother...
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ninja12


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posted February 05, 2008 06:18 PM        
KZ, can you post pictures of the tools you used to do that headwork.
I'm starting to get the urge to try it.

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KZScott


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posted February 05, 2008 07:08 PM        
sure, ill get a few up tomorrow. its very basic stuff. as far as porting tools and supplies, $50 would cover it. an el cheapo dremmel knock off, some sanding drums, tape, sand paper, can of brake clean and youre set. i got a jobmate dremmel knock off over a year ago for $20, even if it only lasted long enough to do a head it would be worth it... but mine is still running great . its more taking your time and not holding it on one spot too long. just clean it up. dont change the shape, leave that to the experts
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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KZScott


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posted February 12, 2008 10:31 AM        
start out with the heavy grit on the casting flash, then do most of it with the finer stuff
i had some 120 grit drums i used too...




head is going back together with carpenter springs and new valve seals


and my latest toy just arrived thx to chavcat (Mike)

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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 12, 2008 05:15 PM        
Have fun with it!
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Seth ZX12r UK


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posted February 28, 2008 11:27 AM        
any update on this KZ?
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KZScott


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posted February 28, 2008 02:31 PM        
been kinda busy, new gf, working on dads bike a bit, waiting on parts, and its the start of maple syrup season up here, so ive been busy with my uncles buisness. (we have about half of the 1500 tress tapped in now)
i have a couple pics of the modified clutch cover ill get posted here in a bit :P

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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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NOX


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posted February 28, 2008 02:46 PM        
Spend the money for the works with Mark, it is worth it, trust me. I put a ton of air in a wore out tire, on a horrible track, at 68 inches, and laid a black mark down the whole track, ate up all 6 gears before 1000ft......., perfect shifts.........

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KZScott


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posted February 28, 2008 02:55 PM        
Mark talked us into everything but billet gears on dads bike. might pick up the low first later on in the season though(only so much cash to build it right now)
mine has just about everything they offer besides billet 5th and 6th
another IN cam to go on the EX side and a set of adjustable cam sprockets are on the way from the Cheese man for my build (should be here any day now) thx!
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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NOX


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posted February 28, 2008 03:09 PM        
Yeah, and I dont think they offer billet 5th or 6th, or I would have it..........

With the low 1st gear, and 16/51 gearing, 2nd gear comes QUICK. I had to get a bigger shift light........., with 12 LEDs.....lol

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posted February 28, 2008 03:26 PM        
haha yeah, i was looking at some big ones on jegs.com im trying 17 52 with the low first. to get the 5th and 6th billet gears talk to VH, i think he has a few sets left, special order from Bill Robinson(who makes the billet 1-4 gears R&D carries). JC might have a slightly used set too...
ok, couple pics
I cut away some of the extra gasket as you advised NOX


going to fill the notch i made with jb weld and file/sand it flat, then paint the whole thing black so it looks like one piece. covering up the "MTC" aswell :P


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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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NOX


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posted February 28, 2008 05:52 PM        
Now, when you take it off, lean the bike way over to the left before you pull the cover, and it will only drop a couple of drops of oil instead of dropping a couple of spoonfuls.........


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posted February 28, 2008 09:14 PM        

not only does it save a mess, if you pull the cover enough (without cutting the gasket)and dont top up the oil, bad things can happen :S. im pretty sure Wolf Racing did that and ran the oil level too low after a bunch of clutch adjustments. the end result was toasted bearings i believe
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 28, 2008 09:27 PM        
Guess me being anal saved my motor, I just hate cleaning up oil........
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posted March 10, 2008 12:03 AM        
been busy, but i got some stuff from Texas again
thx JC!

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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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KZScott


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posted March 17, 2008 10:32 AM        
BIG THANKS goes out to Karl. my international friendly shipping friend got the McMaster Carr stuff
I really appreciate it Just waiting on the HF stuff and ill be having an OCD frenzy measuring stuff lol



did a bit of work on my clutch cover and spacer. going to file/sand the jb weld flat and paint it black for a more stealthy look. anyone who knows what to look for will be able to pick it out, but most of the car guys wont notice (im hoping)

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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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entropy


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posted March 17, 2008 10:08 PM        
hey Scott!
Got the HF stuff on Sat, went into the mail yesterday. Don't know why HF took so long, but at least its on the way!
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KZScott


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posted March 18, 2008 08:57 PM        
AWESOME Karl
I just emailed/paypayl'd you
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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posted March 18, 2008 11:07 PM        
yes, yes, yes

entropy -- thanks a lot !!!

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posted March 20, 2008 09:11 AM        
Very nice tools, how much did those set you back?

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