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posted October 17, 2007 01:23 PM
pulling motor for the first time for trans fix. motor work too? hmmm
Wish me luck gang, Im attempting to do all the work myself. I broke 2nd gear, and im going to get a few billet gears into the bike. while its all apart, i might try and do a few motor upgrades too, im not sure what the budget will allow for yet. Im sure I will have lots of questions for the engine builders so please watch this one! 
will try and get pics as i go. should be a great learning expirience/good practise. 
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted October 17, 2007 03:50 PM
How'd you break the gear...Just pounding away at it?????I've been pounding the hell outta mine but nothing broke yet...I weigh 170 lbs...
Keep us posted and good luck...
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posted October 17, 2007 04:07 PM
Not a builder but did pull my motor out and tore down than got cold feet ;( if the budget allows.
http://www.procryo.com/RemGears.html
Than a set of ceramic tranny and water pump bearings from Worldwide bearings
I had my tranny done on my 1k after being undecut along with ceramic tranny bearings. I have no real world data as the motor is waiting on the head and coatings but should be done soon.
More benefits than less friction. The tranny has to be sent in dissembled completely I had a lot of other stuff done too parts so would not be fair too post a price.
Good luck!
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posted October 17, 2007 05:49 PM
Be sure and get new cir clips for the tranny. If you have a lot of money burning a hole in your pocket then go for the ceramic, otherwise it does not make much difference.
Good luck and have fun. keep us posted with pics and all.
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KZScott
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posted October 17, 2007 06:36 PM
trying to get pics to work. my computer died so im using an old one with windows 98 on it  ... the digital cam needs windows 98se or better, so im going to try and find a palce to download that for free.....(unless someone can point me in the right direction to find xp for free  )
I broke second from too many missed shifts from drag racing. need an airshifter. i dont always get my feet up in time when i get a good launch. second gear was snapping and cracking and making all kinds of wierd noises, and was really jerky, like teeth were broken off of gears so i parked it. that was during eliminations of the biggest race of the yr too 
I got 3d kawi puzzle well on its way to being all apart. got the motor out of it, and lifted it up with a crane to take off the oil pan. i didnt want any chunks of metal falling up into the top end of the motor  . got the pan off and picked up some slivers of metal with a magnet. not as much as i thought i was going to get tho so i guess thats a plus. took the plugs out and i was turning the motor over in first by the sprocket nut, put it in second and it will allmost start to turn the crank, and then slip and the the crank stays in one place as the sprocket turns 1/4 turn real fast then it catches again. looking up into the tranny, i cant really see anything obviously wrong, but im not really sure if i can even see the area thats causing the problem....
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted October 18, 2007 08:27 PM
just getting started
here we go
first time for this!
and heres where it gets ugly
and just cause she was there watching me work on the bike
the dog has it rough eh? LOL
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted October 19, 2007 05:31 AM
Nice looking shepherd. I have 2 myself. They are just as spoiled. LOL
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posted October 19, 2007 11:16 AM
I do tranny repairs all the time without doing complete teardowns. Clean all you can and it should be good to go. Don't forget to inspect everything on the tranny-drum, fork shafts, forks, engagement dogs. Good luck.
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posted October 20, 2007 10:14 PM
well i built a stand out of some scrap metal tubing, and have the motor upside down, ready for the cases to be split. with the oil pan off, and in second gear (the f*cked up one) i can kinda see whats going on. it doesnt do this all the time, but sometimes when im turning the motor over (with a wrench on the sprocket nut) i can see a gear jump sideways a bit and the crank wont move....not sure whats wrong... maybe a circlip? i havent done anything like this yet, but im about to dive in head first lol.
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted October 21, 2007 02:12 PM
With those shavings,be sure to check your oil pump!!
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posted October 21, 2007 02:54 PM
will do! hopefully its clean. I think im going to attempt splitting the cases tomorrow. i downloaded the manual onto my laptop and thats going out beside the bike so im not guessing or running from the shop to the house a million times lol. will get more pics when its apart!
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted October 21, 2007 06:44 PM
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will do! hopefully its clean. I think im going to attempt splitting the cases tomorrow. i downloaded the manual onto my laptop and thats going out beside the bike so im not guessing or running from the shop to the house a million times lol. will get more pics when its apart!
Just replace if you see any scratches.
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KZScott
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posted October 21, 2007 07:37 PM
got a couple pics, didnt split the cases yet though (went out last night, didnt feel too great today lol)
the arrow is pointing to the gear that is jumping sideways (left in the pic) when its in second, and not turning the crank over when i turn the sprocket....
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted October 25, 2007 12:05 AM
ok I finally got the cases split, and i have pics
plz tell me what you see
not sure why this bolt hole is full of oil... is that normal?
bad?
I know this is bad, not sure why it happened though...missed shifts drag racing im guessing
are these useable/fixable? lots of rounded corners in here...
whats the best way to fix this thing??
will get more pics of the rest of it battery in cam was dying
thx!!
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted October 25, 2007 11:33 AM
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted October 25, 2007 12:42 PM
Dammit man...I'd box it all up and send it to Mark at R&D Motorsports(or someone that can get your tans. straightened out) down here in Fla....You need a good freshen up,back cut,ect. ect. and anything that needs replaceing.JMO...If ya need a phone# or address I can hook ya up...Hope mine doesn't look that bad(yet)....
Good pic.'s.
Paul......
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posted October 26, 2007 04:43 PM
Just a heads up.While bike is apart,gets some coil cleaner made for aluminum from a refrigeration supply house.The first time I cleaned my radiator,I could not believe the dirt that came off while rinsing the coil cleaner off.
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posted October 26, 2007 07:06 PM
those forks are toast!
could be why the gear went out also... not shifting smoothly into gear??? but then again I have seen them just break going down the track and not even shifting... probably had a crack in that one though and it just gave away..
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KZScott
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posted October 26, 2007 07:57 PM
waiting on an email from Bill Robinson, he wanted to see pics. hopefully the gears will be ok with a cut/match up(?) with the new billet gears im getting. (1-4)
so do i have to replace all the crank bearings, or just the scuffed up one?
new shift forks for sure! lol. i will have an airshifter on before next season! too many missed shifts into second this yr learing how to drag race and foot shifting!
will have to look into cleaning out the rad too
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted October 26, 2007 08:00 PM
can anyone comment on why 1 bolt hole was full of oil and the rest were dry?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted October 27, 2007 07:14 AM
heres my question. How do you keep the ck balls in place for neutral. I put mine in and they kept falling out. Even used vasoline.
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posted October 27, 2007 08:19 AM
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can anyone comment on why 1 bolt hole was full of oil and the rest were dry?
I have to look at my bike to see why?
MM
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krexken
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posted October 27, 2007 11:22 AM
Leave them dang check balls out. I've never had anyone complain that they couldn't find neutral because they were left out.
I can't imagine why that hole is full of oil. Did you use that gravity defying Z-max in your oil? LOL I can't see it hurting anything though. If it won't drain out if must be getting in around the threads.
You could simply replace all the bad gears or send it to some reputable trans shop and let them handle it all. Some shops can weld up seriously rounded dogs then undercut them saving you money.
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posted October 28, 2007 02:06 AM
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Leave them dang check balls out.
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(i don't know what i'm talking about but krexx does)
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posted October 29, 2007 05:48 AM
would use billet shift shafts ???
http://shop.brocksperformance.com/Detail.bok?no=74
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