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posted March 09, 2007 07:30 AM
Scott's SS Micron Oil Filter
Just curious if anybody has used these and if so what they thought of them?
I think they run around 100 bucks.
Here is their addy:
SCOTT'S
The Finest Stainless Steel Micronic Oil Filter You Can Buy
Why Scotts Is The Best:
Setting the Industry Standard with Technological advancements in product design
10 Years of Engineering, manufacturing and testing
Technical information and assistance available directly from the manufacturer
3 Pleat welded seam (best sealing and strongest
Passes ASTMF316 Test for 35 Microns
Certified "Bubble Point" testing on media
Passes 24 hour chemical resistance test
Custom woven media
Able to withstand 600 degrees F.
Full Flow bypass with progressive valving. No need to disassemble for cleaning.
Magnetic pre-filtering (all spin-on models)
Will Manufacture Custom Filters for Specialty and Vintage applications.
Stocking orders filled WITHOUT waiting for overseas shipments.
Sonic cleaning available from the manufacturer
Used by the most factory backed riders
Labeled "4-Stroke insurance" by MotoCross Action Magazine
Rated "9" by Dirt Rider Magazine
Given "Full Throttle" rating my Fast By Design
Applications for just about everything that rolls, floats or glides across the snow.
100% In-House design and Manufactured in the USA
Superior Filtration:
This should be the last oil filter you will ever buy! Made from laser cut, medical grade, 304 stainless steel micronic filter cloth, this filter provides 200% more filter area in many cases. Most good paper filters will pass particles in the 90 to 95 micron range, and some tested, as much as 300 microns. Sand is about 125 microns and a white blood cell approximately 25 microns. Our stainless filter catches items down to 35 microns "absolute", which is about 3 times better than most good paper or brass filters. The pleat seam is welded, able to withstand up to 600 degrees in our filter, not glued, like paper filters.
Cleanable And Reusable:
Simply remove the filter, rinse in clean solvent and replace it, you're done. The filter can be cleaned with solvent, kerosene, aerosol carburetor cleaner, or any other degreasing agent, even common dish soap. You can even blow air through the filter from the inside out to remove any small particles or cleaning agent from the screen if you so desire.
Consistent Flow Under All Conditions:
Stainless steel will stand up to the stress of heat, high pressure and physical handling much better than paper or brass. This filter maintains consistent flow under all conditions including cold start ups and or under extreme heat. A one inch square of this micron filter material will flow 1.9 gallons of 90 weight oil per minute at only 1 psi pump pressure (70 degrees F). Our typical filter size is 30 sq. in. which equals the flow of 57 gallons per minute. Standard paper filters do not flow well when the oil is cold, often causing the bypass valve to open allowing unfiltered oil to enter your engine!
Unaffected By Water, Heat and Pressure:
This filter is capable of withstanding extremely high pressure and flow rates. It is also unaffected by Water, Heat and Pressure, unlike standard paper filter material which swells in the presence of water, closing off filter pores and reducing flow.
Early Detection:
By allowing you to inspect the debris that is in the filter you can monitor your engines condition, avoiding minor and or catastrophic failures.
What is a Micron?
A micron is one thousandth of a millimeter. That's about .00003937 inches. Fine sand can be as small as 62 microns thick. Our filter will not allow any particle over 35 microns to pass through this filter, that's some pretty small stuff that's being caught.
So Who Uses This Type Of Filtration?
This high tech filter technology is widely used in all types of auto racing including NASCAR, Indy type cars, Formula 1 and in the Aerospace industry where filtration is of the utmost importance.
Things To Think About:
Next time you are fanning your clutch think about all that tiny debris that is created from the clutch and gears meshing together, spinning around in your motor's vital parts. If you really care about the life of your motor and consider the cost of loss of time associated with a current day 4-stroke motor, then you need one of these filters. It's even transferable in some cases to your next bike. I used the same filter in my last three bikes, and it's still like brand new, there's simply nothing to wear out.
Environmental Benefits
In addition to all the other benefits, our filter helps keep the land fills free of old used filters.
This filter is proudly made in the USA.
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lietoome
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posted March 09, 2007 11:06 AM
I've used them, they are very nice. never had an issue with it.
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Megabyte
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posted March 09, 2007 04:20 PM
I've been using one on my 2k 12 for about 8 months w/o any problems. I have yet to clean it. I think it also enhances cooling, at least "that's the word on the street  "
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CrotchRocket
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posted March 09, 2007 08:43 PM
We have talked about this a few years back in the 12 forum...The only disadvantage was cleaning the filter then blowing it out or waiting a day for it to dry out...Or buying 2 of them so that changing the oil does not cause alot of down time...
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countersteer
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posted March 09, 2007 09:08 PM
i do NOT reccomend scotts billet oil filter. joey hahn believes that may be the reason why my zx12 died.
thats the real "word on the street".
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posted March 10, 2007 09:33 AM
quote:
i do NOT reccomend scotts billet oil filter. joey hahn believes that may be the reason why my zx12 died.
Sorry about your engine.
It makes sense to me that the scotts filter offers extra cooling capacity by way of its all metal design and externally machined fins
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GUNNER
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posted March 10, 2007 10:26 AM
These type of filters are JUNK! After many years in the race car industry I can tell you that this type of shit is worthless. Oberg and several others have been around for a long time. When they first came around a lot of people fell into the BS and tried them. NOW hardly anyone does. They simple cause more probems and head ache that they are worth. Why in the fuck would you want to clean a filter and reuse it in the first place? Spend 6 bucks and use the PureOne PL14610 and be done with it. As far as extra cooling goes----------> Who you kiddin? If you have a heat problem work on your radiator and lower the engine temp that way and the oil temp will follow. You're not going to lower the motor temp by the oil. Cure the problem NOT the side effects caused by the problem.
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TRNorBRN6001
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posted March 10, 2007 03:20 PM
CounterSteer, what did your builder say he thought the reason was? Those rods sure look like they got a little warm.
Gunner, what makes them junk?
I was not looking for any oil cooling benefit, but if I went to a higher pressure oil pump I have heard of the paper elements getting abused.
Thanks all, keep it coming. I was looking for those people that have ran them in their bikes like countersteer.
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GUNNER
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posted March 10, 2007 05:09 PM
To start with they don't filter NO WHERE near as good as the paper units. Only the Scott's add thinks so. Do some research and you'll see. Secondly as I stated why would you even screw with it? It's a poser part sold to guys that think reinventing the wheel is the ticket to speed. On some things new ideas are the way, but on other shit like this it's a joke. There is probably a very small if any number of motors that expire due to a related problem of a STANDARD filter. You're spending time searching for improvement in the wrong place.
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NINJA12
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posted March 10, 2007 07:10 PM
 Edited By: NINJA12 on 10 Mar 2007 19:12
Don't know if it works or not, but like gunner said WHY?
PL14610 are too cheap and available everwhere.
Compared to tires and clutches, oil and filter are a minor expense.
How many new filters could you buy for the same money?
How long would it take you to use them all?
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hyper12r
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posted June 21, 2008 07:42 AM
how about muzzys type 304 stainless steel micronic filter???
anyone using them???
http://www.muzzys.com/ReusableOilFilter/index.html
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countersteer
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posted June 21, 2008 08:11 AM
same exact unit as Scotts
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posted June 21, 2008 09:06 AM
roger,thanks
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posted June 22, 2008 06:28 PM
But it says Muzzys. It must be better........
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posted June 23, 2008 09:09 AM
Back in the day the Oil Filters were Felt and we cleaned them! Cleanning is the #1 problem with them and they do have a limit of the size partical they can filter. If they could filter too small you could not get the filter clean!
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posted June 23, 2008 03:16 PM
Edited By: Megabyte on 23 Jun 2008 16:17
"If they could filter too small you could not get the filter clean!"
Best point made that I've read.
Thanks VH.
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countersteer
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posted June 23, 2008 03:21 PM
Edited By: countersteer on 23 Jun 2008 16:22
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=38633
i got pretty pissed at that guy for promoting this filter, i feel its a piece of shit product...
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