Megabyte
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posted August 10, 2005 07:44 AM
 Edited By: Megabyte on 10 Aug 2005 11:49
Scott's Billet Oil Filter
Anyone tried Scott's Billet Oil Filter ?
http://www.scottsperformance.com/indexmain.html
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frEEk
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posted August 10, 2005 11:45 AM
read some debate on whether it is superior or inferior to standard quality filters. personally i'd liek to run one cause it reduces trash and should save $ over the long run, plus it should look nice on my naked 12.
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Megabyte
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posted August 10, 2005 12:04 PM
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read some debate on whether it is superior or inferior to standard quality filters. personally i'd liek to run one cause it reduces trash and should save $ over the long run, plus it should look nice on my naked 12.
Yes, I agree with these reasons, but if you remember, when the 12 first came out, guys were reporting engine failures apparently caused by second party filters. So, I guess I want to be careful....
I received the following from Scott's tech support, which left me even more confused, especially the "I would suggest cleaning filter and changing the oil every 1 or 2 rides" part:
You should still change your oil at normal intervals. Our
filter does filter better than stock but it still needs to be cleaned.
On today's four strokes I would suggest cleaning filter and changing the
oil every 1 or 2 rides. Since our filter does flow more oil it does not
put as much pressure on the motor to pump the oil through thus allowing
the bike to run at a lower temperature.
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VincentHill
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posted August 10, 2005 01:12 PM
" I would suggest cleaning filter and changing the oil every 1 or 2 rides."
EVERY 1 OR 2 RIDES??  I sure hope that these are Cross COuntry RIdes!! That has to be the wierdest statement I have ever seen.
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frEEk
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posted August 10, 2005 02:42 PM
probably a typo of sorts, meant to say 1 or 2 oil changes. that would be my guess anyway.
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frEEk
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posted August 10, 2005 02:51 PM
btw, anyone have a good place to get one? scott's charges more and charges too much imho for shipping. kneedraggers is good on price & shipping but charge a $10 "canadian documentation surcharge". it may have a rational basis, but i refuse to pay that. guess i wont be ordering anything frmo kneedraggers anytime soon.
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trenace
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posted August 10, 2005 06:38 PM
My first problem with the company is that their ad copy has a dishonest statement, completely misrepresenting the efficacy of more standard filters. The fact is that good filters such as, say, the Purolator Pure One filter down to 10 microns, which this far more expensive filter cannot do.
The second problem I have is with the product itself: it is incapable of filtering down to anything good. I wouldn't run that filter if it were free.
The third problem is that paying what, ten or twenty times higher price for greatly inferior performance really doesn't appeal to me.
Could be good for a show bike though as it looks cool.
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ninja12
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posted August 11, 2005 02:08 PM
Scott filter $100
Pure one $5
oil change 2K miles
20 oil changes @ 2k interval $5 each = 40,000 miles
change at 3K miles and you have 60,000 miles.
I've never kept a bike that long.
P.s. How long and how much effort to clean this filter.
Is it really clean?
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trenace
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posted August 11, 2005 02:27 PM
Edited By: trenace on 13 Aug 2005 00:22
Well by their own claim it filters down to only 35 microns.
The only reason it sounds cleaner in their ad copy than a good filter of a more-standard design is because they LIE about the performance of other filters! Many of which filter a very high percentage (approaching 100%) each pass down to 10 microns.
But they try to trick you into believing they filter down to only 95 microns, which is very deceptive.
Hey, for some people, when the merits of their product can't sell it, then lying about competing products is the only way to move their own.
Sounds harsh, but that is the best I can figure from Scott's ad text on their oil filter.
What this product might be good for would be as a prefilter SCREEN but not as the main filter, not the finest filter you have. Do you really want all the 30 micron, 25 micron, 20 micron etc particles flying freely through your oil filter?
Which, given the design of this one, they will (unless maybe at a point where the filter is almost entirely stopped up, then the already-caught junk could likely itself start trapping smaller particles.)
I would not run this if it were free. I would not run it if you paid me hundreds of dollars to do it. I would not do it over a multi-year span if you paid me $1000 to do it.
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yzfone
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posted August 15, 2005 09:24 AM
quote:
Scott filter $100
Pure one $5
oil change 2K miles
20 oil changes @ 2k interval $5 each = 40,000 miles
change at 3K miles and you have 60,000 miles.
I've never kept a bike that long.
P.s. How long and how much effort to clean this filter.
Is it really clean?
Is there a Pure One filter that fits the 12?
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trenace
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posted August 15, 2005 10:19 AM
Yes: PL14610
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