CrotchRocket
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posted August 07, 2005 11:36 PM
I hear you RA...
Gunner, not taken wrong, just adding to the madness!!!
I have and we will move on and be better than before...
OK, back to the ZX12 chats 
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aliveagain
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posted August 08, 2005 04:37 AM
I beg to differ with you guys on this.My bike is just a hobby,no more no less.Even without knowing Johnnycheese's situation,a married man that'll put anything befor his wife long enough be it drugs, work, bikes or the stupid computer hurts her pride.How would you feel if a wife or girl friend always told you her ex screwed better then you after sex?It's the same thing,you are telling the other person that they are replaceable.And then you are.I don't know why Mrs. Cheese is deciding to leave and feel for Johnny's pain but I pray for both to find their happiness.It's quite possible that she was holding him back from where he's suppose to become,but it's painful none the less.Alot easier to point the finger than to self-access.Ra , you surprise me sometimes.Johnny,at the very least,thank Barbara,for the wonderful times you have been able to enjoy.
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gunner
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posted August 08, 2005 06:46 AM
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I beg to differ with you guys on this.My bike is just a hobby,no more no less.Even without knowing Johnnycheese's situation,a married man that'll put anything befor his wife long enough be it drugs, work, bikes or the stupid computer hurts her pride.How would you feel if a wife or girl friend always told you her ex screwed better then you after sex?It's the same thing,you are telling the other person that they are replaceable.And then you are.I don't know why Mrs. Cheese is deciding to leave and feel for Johnny's pain but I pray for both to find their happiness.It's quite possible that she was holding him back from where he's suppose to become,but it's painful none the less.Alot easier to point the finger than to self-access.Ra , you surprise me sometimes.Johnny,at the very least,thank Barbara,for the wonderful times you have been able to enjoy.
That's why I'm not married..................I've also never come home early and found my ZX11, ZX12, or anyother one of my bikes past or present cheating on me...... So my loyalty is now redirected  Personally it works for me. maybe not you?
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johnnycheese
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posted August 08, 2005 11:09 AM
Thanks again.
VH she gave me more chances than one would think 80% of then I blew off because I again the word "I" new that what I was doing was way more important and the rewards would make "US" happy. I have to say the internet and my EGO was the failure. this is why I want to shut the shop. She still want me to keep it open. But by keeping it all it will do is remind me of the most valuable thing in the world I lost. VH is correct nothing means squat without your best friend there to share it.
Just so you know my first wife was one of those wear this stuff, etc. I didn't care she was cheating but what pissed me off was I had to work 3 jobs and she had one aswell and we where broke, because she could not wear the same shit twice.
I left with a house in Vegas a bed and a glass dining room table. no pots forks towels or food in the house. she had me handcuffed while she emptied the house out in front of me, and I came back even stronger and better.
because that didn't bother me , not being with my best friend does.
I know it sound stupid but if you ever find like I know some of you have, someone that you can talk to and enjoy being around , it is priceless. I just forgot how to comunicate.
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VincentHill
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posted August 08, 2005 12:46 PM
I have not seen "One" thing that was stupid said here or anywhere else. The main difference in women is, they are fine until they are not. We have ups and downs and they are up until they are down and then it is over. Right now, Just having the 17 year of marriage, Me personally I am going through something. In my case, I have never been that good to be out of Normal and considered Bad. My wife left me and trook a vacation with "Freinds" and I had no idea of who or exactly where they were. This bothers me because if anything had happened to her, the Police would have asked me where she was so that they could verify it and I would not know and they would not believe me if I said that. So you never know and Barbara sounds like a Good person and you guys just miscommunicated all over the place. I also under EXACTLY What you said about the shop. Your heart is now not in it. Like someone else here said, It is not over until it is over. I see how you feel and You need to make sure that without the shop, what you would do that "You" would enjoy doing and have more time for her. My feeling is, that it would still hurt her if you were unhappy doing something else no matter what you said. This is a hard one and I hope you can come up with something you can do to make money and still be happy. If you can, I think you still have a Shot. I do not know what is going on in my situation (Time of life or what), but anything less that Harmony, is totally hard to deal with.
The first situation you never needed to be there. My first situation, I could have dealt with it but over time it would have still ended up the same way. This one is different and Like you, it was great for a long time. In my case, the stress of court really put a strain on everything for close to 8 years which is a very long time and then to have the Judge make a horrible ruling just took our hearts away from us.
Seriously think about what would you do that you could be happy at that would allow time for the both of you. If there is no answer, then you have the answer and it is not a good one because that makes her right!
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Ra12r
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posted August 09, 2005 04:59 AM
Johnny, you MUST stay strong for your own self-esteem and her respect. Women do not respect weak men. This means that you walking away from the very activities that pays the bills is not the best decision. Don't let everything around you destablize. Just one change at a time. Believe it or not, if you can bring some balance back in your life and be consistent about it, then she may believe you again to be her best friend. Keep making money doing what you love, cause that is something she believed in for you. Don't give that up or it looks like another mistake that she made about you. You are going to have to "fake it till you make it" regarding your emotions.
After a few weeks of NO DRAMA, then ask her out for ice cream, (and don't talk about bikes and no sex). All hope is not lost, you will have to be like Rossi when he gets behind....it may take a few laps to get the race back though. You can do it. READ THE BOOK!!!
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gunner
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posted August 09, 2005 05:30 PM
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Johnny, you MUST stay strong for your own self-esteem and her respect. Women do not respect weak men. This means that you walking away from the very activities that pays the bills is not the best decision. Don't let everything around you destablize. Just one change at a time. Believe it or not, if you can bring some balance back in your life and be consistent about it, then she may believe you again to be her best friend. Keep making money doing what you love, cause that is something she believed in for you. Don't give that up or it looks like another mistake that she made about you. You are going to have to "fake it till you make it" regarding your emotions.
After a few weeks of NO DRAMA, then ask her out for ice cream, (and don't talk about bikes and no sex). All hope is not lost, you will have to be like Rossi when he gets behind....it may take a few laps to get the race back though. You can do it. READ THE BOOK!!!
RA.........This is what I was trying to say, but somehow didn't get it across. It's really simple if you think about it. Ask yourself a few questions and the answer is there.
1... Who was I when she married me...............Answer{ That's who she wants}
2.. Did I ever wimper down before...................Answer { Hell NO } They hate that in a man.
3... There are many more simple questions to ask yourself these are just a couple....
You get the point
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posted August 10, 2005 02:23 AM
Update: (JC, I hope you don't mind me posting this...)
I talked with John yesterday and he is one tough chunk o' Cheese; doing OK under the circumstances; still has his sense of humor.
He is very proud of what he has accomplished in the last 3 years, but fo' sho', the shop WILL be shut down by end Sept. He ain't whining or kow-towing to the ole lady, just something he's gonna do. She wants him to keep it open; he wants a change.
He is VERY appreciative of all the heartfelt support he's getting from all-ya'll.
He's prolly selling the dyno, but keeping all his tools so there is hope for us yet!
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VincentHill
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posted August 10, 2005 09:53 AM
I also got the understanding from one of his posts which is why I stated the case of where I won a Road Race and went Home. The energy level is just not there and it would be no fun right now (actually Painful) The #1 thing he knows is he has 100% of our support and any of us would do anything if we could turn things around. 
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johnnycheese
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posted August 10, 2005 05:31 PM
No problem Karl, I do not mind.
Vincent, I still thank God EVERY morning that he lets me wake up.
And yes the support from this and other board has been SURPRISING to say the least. Thank you all for the e-mails the prayers and the verse from the Good Book.
THANK YOU.
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T-Rex12R
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posted August 11, 2005 07:13 AM
Keep your head up Johnny.... I have been thru alot in my life, divorce being one of them. Some by mistakes that I have made and others where God just allowed it to happen. But this is what I have come to realize. He doesn't allow these things to happen to destroy us but to make us stronger. Things that I have gone thru and survived I find myself helping someone in a simular situation thru their hard times and that is what we are here for...to help each other. So keep this in mine as you go thru you heart ache, learn from it, grow stronger and one day you will find yourself helping someone else thru their heart ache. Good luck and my prayers are with you and I hope it doesn't come accross that I am preaching to you....Itz just something I learned.
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VincentHill
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posted August 11, 2005 10:19 AM
Good Words T-Rex12R
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johnnycheese
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posted August 11, 2005 01:49 PM
T-Rex those are words I live by .
Thank you
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T-Rex12R
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posted August 11, 2005 07:30 PM
You are very welcome Cheese Man!!!!!!
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OutsiderZX12R
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posted August 12, 2005 05:28 PM
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[Eveyone says I can come back but what some do not understand is that my wife Barbara was the one who let me live the dream. with her gone (I know it sounds corny) I don't care about the dream.
I don't think it sounds corny at all. Hope everything works out for you.
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posted August 13, 2005 01:56 PM
"Life is to short to be misreable"...
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