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johnnycheese


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posted August 05, 2005 11:44 AM        
Johnnycheese performance

Mrs. cheese has said she wants a divorce. so Johnnycheese performance will be gone as of 9/30/05
3 years after I open I will close it is a sad day indeed
sorry Karl I tried
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posted August 05, 2005 11:57 AM        
yikes....kinda wish this were april fools :/

Sorry to hear that cheeseman....no plans to reopen?

Bullets are cheaper than divorce!
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posted August 05, 2005 11:58 AM        
Terrible news JC, I'm very sorry. Hope things turn out OK and you can get a shop up and running again someday.

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posted August 05, 2005 12:21 PM        
Damn, sorry to hear that.

Like everyone said, I hope everything turns out ok, and that it stays civil. These things *can* get nasty at the drop of a hat. So take care of yourself.

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posted August 05, 2005 12:25 PM        
Sorry to hear that John. That really sucks!

Glad Mad Mike and I got to come down and meet you and see your shop and make a couple of dyno pulls.

We are trying to get a plan together to come down to the Texas shootout on Oct. 22nd.
Hope to see you there...

Ryan

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johnnycheese


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posted August 05, 2005 01:34 PM        
this is nothing in the light of the whole picture.
V.H. knows what I mean
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posted August 05, 2005 01:44 PM        Edited By: entropy on 5 Aug 2005 14:45
divorce SUCKS... you were really working at working stuff out, eh?

the shop can rise again, but divorce???

that SUCKS!!!


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posted August 05, 2005 03:58 PM        
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this is nothing in the light of the whole picture.
V.H. knows what I mean


You Know I Know! I keep telling him that I wish he would not trust me to "Handle" SO much. Like I said on the "Other" SIte, JOHNNY CHEESEMAN PERFORMANCE IS NOT A PLACE, IT IS A PERSON AND AS LONG AS THE PERSON EXIST, IT EXIST. (JUST MAYBE NOT IN THE SAME LOCATION

Think about this, supposed you were not here (Yes Dead) and everything else was just fine (Your Wife and you were just perfect, but you died) There would not only no longer be a Johnny Cheeseman Performance, but there NEVER COULD BE EITHER! So just take you time and slowly get over this and get a place and back to work.

I was married before and Peggy was twice before. We have been together 20 years (She has been Married for 17 as of August 7th, I am still on my Honeynoon) "Unless she comes back from her trip and decides to leave" Remember, Everything happens for a reason and usually for the good. No way to know how this is good now, but 20 years from now you will know!
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posted August 05, 2005 06:36 PM        
I'm with V.H. on this one.If you're half as good a builder as ya sound then you are only in transit and will pull a Phoenix.I feel for ya dude as there is no way to prepare for that gut wrenching feeling in a split.Best of luck and make sure you got a bro to talk about it and not get bitter.
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posted August 05, 2005 07:00 PM        
John, I am really sorry to hear about this... dude your a great guy! and as Ryan said, man it was great to stop at your shop and dyno the bikes....
hey if you ever want to just bullshit, give me a call anytime my man!
Mad Mike......

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posted August 06, 2005 05:41 AM        
There is a good tool book called "The 5 Love Languages" by Gary Chapman. Very good tools no matter what happens. I am divorced and it sucks when plans and idea dreams don't happen right. By the sound of your post, this is not your choice and that is where the anger and bitterness and depression and every other negative emotions comes from. I learned alot in divorce recovery class. As I wanted to find myself again, the self that was before the pain and hurt. That is the person we loss in all the harsh words and arguements over time. Both of you are probably not the people you were when you met and fell in love. This is a big part of relationship problems. Negative interaction changes us for the worse.

If there is NO HOPE of reconciling and there is also NO SELF DECEPTION in terms of trying everything to heal the communication, (this is the very important cause most men are perfect and the women is the problem.....haha), then remember how easy was to meet new people "BEFORE" you got married.

Sorry, I hate it for you.
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posted August 06, 2005 06:16 AM        
I feel for you johnny having been through divorce myself. Divorce sux. Good luck .
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posted August 06, 2005 08:22 AM        
It ain't over until it's over.
Have you had the heart to heart.
If not do it, if so you know what's best.
I wish the best for you and the mrs.

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posted August 06, 2005 05:30 PM        
quote:
It ain't over until it's over.
Have you had the heart to heart.
If not do it, if so you know what's best.
I wish the best for you and the mrs.

I have tried but failed I put the shop above her and it has cost me.
Eveyone says I can come back but what some do not understand is that my wife Barbara was the one who let me live the dream. with her gone (I know it sounds corny) I don't care about the dream.
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posted August 06, 2005 05:58 PM        
HEY johnny.......you know...your story sounds vaguely familiar to me.......My job is being pretty hard on my marriage...long hours...lots of road trips, and this job IS my dream.....we came close to ending it but finally we came to a concesus.....we cant live without each other.
NOW understand that my wife does not work, I am the sole supporter.
The job is still a little hard on the marriage but we are working through it.......Is there any chance that the 2 of you can work it out???.......you've gotta try buddy......unless there is just no chance.
But DONT let the misery kill your dream.....you are human and humans are reziliant (spelling)......you have alot of friends and family that I'm sure love you and would be willing to help in one way shape or form.....I've only met you once or twice and you seem like a pretty reasonable guy.... just get things taken care of that need to be taken care of and come back with a vengance with one wheel on the ground and one wheel pointing at the sky....The dream will ALWAYS be there and so will you.

Here's to hopen that you can work things out with the wife!!!
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posted August 06, 2005 07:54 PM        
I wasnt going to say anything, but I have to now...

Johnny, I also have been there and am divorced for 9 years now...I dont know what the circumstances that led up to you being in this situation, but if it is anything like mine then do what you have to by standing up for yourself !!!

Just do the right thing!!!...At least you know YOU are!!!

How hard do we as Men have to try???

Where is the womans responsibility in this kind of situation???

Some people hate to see others doing something that they really love and getting paid for it...Its a shame that those same people are jelous then sabotage the good thing for that other person!!!

Johnny, go with your gut feeling in your decision!!!

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posted August 07, 2005 07:09 AM        Edited By: bossman12r on 7 Aug 2005 10:16
Sorry to hear what is happing in your life. I went through alot with my first wife. She wanted me to look the way I did when we meet but she did not want me to send the time in the gym. Then she did not like where we lived, so I moved 4 times in one year to make her happy. I bent over backwards for her to see it all end. You can't make anyone happy if you are not happy first. Good luck with what ever happens.
You have my number if you need to talk.
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gunner


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posted August 07, 2005 07:52 AM        
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Sorry to hear what is happing in your life. I went through alot with my first wife. She wanted me to look the way I did when we meet but she did not want me to send the time in the gym. Then she did not like where we lived, so I moved 4 times in one year to make her happy. I bent over backwards for her to see it all end. You can't make anyone happy if you are not happy first. Good luck with what happens.
You have my number if you need to talk.


Good advice here!!!!! Many of us have been in your shoes and no one can tell you what to do because you won't listen during these times. (I wouldn't anyway) Just know that what has been said that I quoted is true. YOU my friend have to be happy and if you're not than there's not much to be done. (I was also a slow learner on this one as well) Like you I had many friends try and tell me what was best, and I wish a million times I would have listened. PLEASE LISTEN JC!!!!!!!!!!!! Giving up your dream isn't the answer my friend. It only shows a side of a man that NO WOMAN wants to see. (you'll just have to trust me on this one) I wish you well Sir!!!!!!!!!!
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posted August 07, 2005 09:06 AM        
Johnnycheese,judging by your posts,you're a man of few words.I can relate to that.When my wife and I were separated and I was fresh out of rehab,my wife and I would sit on the porch at the end of the day and just talk about how our day went,then I would go home.After 6 mo. of this,she agreed to move back in with me.One of the things I'll admit to being guilty of is not romancing my wife enough and I get complacent over the years.
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posted August 07, 2005 09:14 AM        
quote:
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.. You can't make anyone happy if you are not happy first....


YOU my friend have to be happy


coupla a mighty smart fellers here. yup!
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posted August 07, 2005 09:41 AM        
Understand that I have been Married once before and had someone I was not married to but were together with for almost 12 years. I won a Road Race at Summit point and because "Barbara" was not there, I did not enjoy it. I sent a friend to the Podium to pick up the trophy and bring it by the house later. This was the championship race where I beat Dale Quarterly who won the AMA Super Bike race at Mid Ohio later that year so it was a Big Deal. Later Barbara and I broke up. It took a while but I found Peggy who has been married twice before and I have been on my honeymoon for the last 20 years (17 married as of "TODAY " around 4:30 PM on this exact day) I have new dreams now.

The reason I mentioned Barbara is because if not for her, I would not have been able to do all of the things I did in Road Race. Under Sponsor it always stated "Thanks to Barbara". People Grow and they Grow differently. When Barbara atated that she wanted to leave, I could not believe it. All of my friends asked me what "I" had done this time ?? I asked her to give it another try and she did and for a while things were OK and then I could see that she was not happy and then "WE" agreed to go our own ways. To this day, I still care about her.

Yes, you may have gotten too involved in the Business. Ask her one question for me.

Knowing everything she knows now, at what point did she start seeing the problems and when she saw them, what did she say to you to give you an opportunity to correct them and what would she have wanted you to do differently?

If you can get a good answer to the above, then you will know if there was anything not only you could do, but even if you would have wanted to do it. Also, this is a two way street and both have a responsibility here.

Last, most of us fall down on the Job because only the Real JC was perfect. So when the Blame is noted, it was not all your fault how ever you feel. It just takes a long time to get to the point that you can handle life again because you never get over these things 100% ever! We are all pulling for you!
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posted August 07, 2005 11:56 AM        
Vince..........You are a GOOD man Sir!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean that.
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posted August 07, 2005 02:45 PM        
Hey Gunner, most of us are good men, do the right thing for our woman and family!!!

So, what do we get for it???...We have our woman wanting a divorce thats what happens!!!

Vince, thats why I said where is the womans responsiblity and understanding in a situation like this!!!...Nobody is perfect and its up to the other person in a relationship to help the other when things change!!!

ANYWAY!!!
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posted August 07, 2005 06:30 PM        
Crotch, I am not trying to press you, but as men we are to be the head of our homes. When things do not go right, the buck has to stop somewhere and that is with the head. I ultimately learned to take full responsibility for my situations. This put me back in control of myself and my future. I forgave her and the step son for EVERYTHING. Did all I could do to help them get stable while I was healing and pursuing peace.

Crotch, if you are still angery, (maybe justified?) then that anger is inside of you, not her. No matter what, Let it go. So love can replace it. There is good women and good men all around us. But, if our heart is not whole and healthy, then the good ones stay away. Like attracts Like.
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posted August 07, 2005 07:47 PM        
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Hey Gunner, most of us are good men, do the right thing for our woman and family!!!

So, what do we get for it???...We have our woman wanting a divorce thats what happens!!!

Vince, thats why I said where is the womans responsiblity and understanding in a situation like this!!!...Nobody is perfect and its up to the other person in a relationship to help the other when things change!!!

ANYWAY!!!


Crotch don't get me wrong here my brother. I was married for 16 years and had the same shit happen. I never said that I would ever trust another woman again because I won't, but one thing that my EX said to me that finally sunk in my head was "Get A Life!!!" Guess what boys this is it now. It was the one that I had before her and it's the one I love still!!!!!!!! It only took me six long and hard years to dig from under the debt that she burried me under. I was all but written off by her. Now things are good for me and SHITTY for her. SORRY FOR HER LUCK. (NOT!!!!!) All I'm saying to Mr. JC is don't do what I did and blame himself and lose his dream!!!!!!!!!!! We're all here for the bikes, but we're brothers first and when I see one of my brothers headed down the same bad path as I did I'll try my best to help. My motto now is simple " If it floats, flys, or fucks RENT IT!!!!!!!" It's cheaper in the long run.
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