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posted February 23, 2005 11:07 AM
Flat Tire Advice
Recently, a nail in one of my rear tire grooves caused a flat tire and required a roadside plug repair. Should I replace the practically new tire or just have it patched ?
Thanks,
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VincentHill
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posted February 23, 2005 01:38 PM
I hate to tell you this but like a lot of other people here it only seems to happen to New Tires. If you had a Harley and only could go 80 MPH max and cruised 60 then it may be worth patching from the inside. The problem is at 180, a repair may fail and kill you. Then you will say to yourself for a Lousy $150 I could have been alive! See what I mean> I carry a plug patching kit in my bike for on the road repairs to get to someplace to have it replaced. One year in Daytona, I have 3 flats on the same tire (Because I had a new one at home and did not bring it. I finally had to buy a new tire and no more flats)
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osti33
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posted February 23, 2005 01:52 PM
Personally I would replace it. It's good piece of mind.
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zx12richard
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posted February 23, 2005 02:46 PM
I would also replace.....
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Megabyte
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posted February 23, 2005 03:26 PM
Yep, that's what I thought too... Thanks for the good advise!
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posted February 23, 2005 04:31 PM
it's an argument that has been run thru the ringer before. there are defintiely people on both sides of the fence.
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ninja12
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posted February 23, 2005 07:26 PM
I said the same thing until my new 207gp picked up a nail.
at first i rode real cautious then faster and faster on the plug.
I figured If the plug cam out i would replace it and drive home.
Why do people say the tire will blow out because of a plug.
I wouldn't race on a plug or patched tire, but for everyday riding it's not even a question anymore.
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TurboBlew
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posted February 23, 2005 08:27 PM
Replace it, but patch the punctured one. A patch on the inside will work.
My original 207 got a nail in it at 200miles. PUt a patch on the inside and never had a problem. ROde it all the way down to the cords. 
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VincentHill
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posted February 24, 2005 07:41 AM
Most plugs for reasonable speed will not come out, and if they do, the tire is not going to Explode, but it will deflate quickly and if you are not "On-Guard" you can find yourself in a real fix.
Remember at 150 to 200 mph, new perfect tires can have problems!
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MadMike
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posted February 24, 2005 08:44 AM
I would replace is 200 bucks really worth the what if's...
I would patch and keep as TB says.... never know when you might need one. in an emergency.
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CrotchRocket
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posted February 24, 2005 09:56 AM
If you patch it and ride it to the cords as TB did, then putting a plug in it is no difference!!!
When the nail punctured the belts, that is the main reason why the Pros say to change the tire...I have ridden a tire with 2 plugs in it and dragraced, street ride going well over 100 on the hiway...
I say just patch or plug it...The tire manufactures have to tell you to replace the tire due to liability...
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ninja12
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posted February 27, 2005 09:48 AM
what he said 
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trizz
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posted February 27, 2005 08:40 PM
I don't think I would use a tire plug it's a temporary fix, I would have the tire patched from the inside.
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canadamaxxer
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posted February 28, 2005 09:12 AM
There are plug patches available that will fill the void left by the nail,etc and also work to patch the hole from the inside (think of a mushroom...that is the general shape). We use them at work all the time (plugs are illegal to use here) and they work brilliantly.
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Megabyte
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posted February 28, 2005 09:08 PM
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There are plug patches available that will fill the void left by the nail,etc and also work to patch the hole from the inside (think of a mushroom...that is the general shape). We use them at work all the time (plugs are illegal to use here) and they work brilliantly.
Any idea where I could find some of these plug patches ?
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posted March 01, 2005 09:09 AM
 Edited By: canadamaxxer on 1 Mar 2005 09:09
I would start by checking with the local tire repair places. All I have ever heard them refered to as is "Plug patches"...no other name, so that should simplify things a little. Picture a flat patch with a thin cylinder of rubber (up to 2" long...which is clipped off after installation) protruding from the exact centre. The rubber is usually protected by a tin shield or blue plastic wrap.
You could also check places like "Auto Zone" perhaps.
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posted March 01, 2005 04:50 PM
Ride the hell out of it. I would!!
I only lost one plug, and that was doing a burnout right before a tire change back in 98. Only of the three plugs I had in the tire came out.......
I ain't scared!!
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CrotchRocket
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posted March 01, 2005 06:01 PM
canadamaxxer, I have only used those plugs your talking about...But not all the repair shops use those type plugs...
They are awesome, the mushroom plugs are installed with a special airgun made just for those type of plugs!!!...In my opinion its better then a patch, because it seals the puncture and theres no way that plug is coming out unless the hole is too big...
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canadamaxxer
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posted March 02, 2005 07:00 AM
The plug patches we use are just installed by hand. You just rough up the inside of the tire, put on the vulanizing glue, let it dry, and then peel off the protective plastic from the patch, insert the plug section through the nail hole in the tire, pull it through with a pair of pliers. Clip off the excess and roll out the patch to ensure proper contact and you are good to go
Here is a picture: 
and http://www.nytechsupply.com/catalog/ppcus.html
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