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posted April 12, 2004 12:55 PM
So lets play a game :)
Lets pretend you want to build your dream dragbike.
Bike requirements
1. Be a ZX12R
2. Have a big mamma jamma turbo hangin off the front
3. Have a 3-10 adjustible arm (for all sorts of fun).
So...say you were building a beast like this...what else would you do to it? Thoughts..ideas...tossem out 
and a couple of questions while im at it.
1. Is there a 16" rim that would fit 12R forks?
2. what gearing would one run on a turbo bike built for the strip?
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zrxdean
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posted April 12, 2004 06:57 PM
1. R&D transmission / multistage lockup
2. lowered & weighted chassis / $$$ suspension
3. EMS / datalogger
4. Lotsa seat time
5. Let your friends ride it 
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posted April 12, 2004 08:09 PM
hahahahhahahahah.
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RAC4IT
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posted April 13, 2004 02:42 AM
DFI, forget the long arm, stock or 60" wheelbase! As stock looking as possible. Basically the BudBusa bike! #8! only on a 12R platform
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TurboBlew
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posted April 13, 2004 04:26 AM
Every thing Dean said...plus
-Trac front end with skinny wheel and Prostock 8" rotors
-One piece bodywork
-Multistage controller
-Relocate battery in upper fairing stay
-Straight bar conversion
-Slammed to the ground
-Reworked /lighter subframe
-Fuel cell in the tail section
-And of course.... letting your friends bust some Busa ass....lol
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posted April 13, 2004 08:42 AM
Where would one obtain a set of one piece bodywork?
Fuel cell should be cut down significantly (who needs 5 gallons at the track anyway?)
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posted April 13, 2004 08:49 AM
Man, here I go......
R & D tranny, complete with race bearings in the tranny and wheels. Marvics for wheels, custom 16 inch front wheel.
Triple clamps custom made to give less wheelbase in front of steering head, billet along with ZX10 forks
Trac dynamics arm, penske custom drag race shock
DFI with datalogger
multistage lockup with lots of extra clutch plates
turbo kit with BB turbo and custom fuel system with modded fuel tank to sit lower.
Muzzys dry sump and built motor with carrillos and turbo pistons and ported head and web custom billet turbo grinds. Dont forget about the velocity stacks
Hang ass loads of weight on the front of that bitch and put the tire at 60 inches.....
I bet I could build a 7.90 zx12 60 inches Just gotta let Mike Slowe ride it! LOL
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posted April 13, 2004 02:44 PM
 Edited By: your car is slow on 13 Apr 2004 15:44
hrrmmmmmm....will this do for adding weight to the front of the bike?
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MadMike
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posted April 13, 2004 03:11 PM
LOL... you dirty dog!......
looking good!
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rz350
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posted April 13, 2004 06:03 PM
AM/FM Cd player is a must!
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posted April 14, 2004 09:03 AM
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YCIS, Ive got one of those turbo headers in stock....call me and we can make a deal.
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posted April 14, 2004 09:06 AM
I appreciate the offer...however there is already something in the works!
Pics when its complete
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posted April 14, 2004 11:07 AM
What are you gonna run for fuel injection system? Secondary injectors?
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posted April 14, 2004 11:29 AM
gotta muzzy EMS...and a muzzy fuel pump...looking for an AFPR now.
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posted April 14, 2004 11:46 AM
cool, you gonna put big ole RC's in that bitch? Muzzy's sells the 550ccs with spacers for 459.99, not too shabby. Those should be good to 400 maybe a little more with 50psi base pressure. Let me know if you need some help, the maps muzzy gives you arent worth a shit, I had to build one from scratch for the big injectors. Simple as can be though, esp if you know your basic principles. The DTA software is user friendly.....
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posted April 14, 2004 11:57 AM
Edited By: your car is slow on 14 Apr 2004 13:04
Going to be a stock motor till I hole some pistons...so im shooting for a bit below 300 at the moment. After its gone...Ill put in some mac daddy pistons/rods/headwork etc and shoot for the moon.
No need for the bigger injectors till then.
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posted April 14, 2004 12:06 PM
so I assume your using an FMU then with the stockers?
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posted April 14, 2004 01:13 PM
The EMS is supposed to provide that capability (comes with the wideband sensor etc)
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posted April 15, 2004 05:53 AM
The EMS can't bump the fuel pressure up during boost....
Im just thinking unless you use an FMU you are gonna run out of injector way before you get to 300rwhp. I made 332 with 50lb injectors and the duty cycle was near 100% at the end of the run.....
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posted April 15, 2004 07:13 AM
hrmmm....I was under the assumption that the EMS can indeed adjust pressure during boost....ahh the joys of research
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posted April 15, 2004 11:55 AM
you are gonna need a 1 to 1 rising rate regulator just to compensate on the other side of the injector for each pound of boost you run. If you want to bump the pressure in your fuel system for adding fueling capabilites, you are gonna need an FMU. BTW, an FMU is just a band-aid, injectors are the way to go. BTW, order bigger than your needs so you wont be at 100% duty cycle.
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posted April 15, 2004 02:54 PM
Oh all that will eventually show up...however on the stock motor...with ~300...I believe the stockers will work fine with some increased fuel pressure. I was making 250rw on spray with the stock Fuel Pressure/stock pump/stock injectors without coming near 100% duty cycle...I dont think another 50hp would be in a dangerous range...but...we shall see
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posted April 16, 2004 06:15 AM
how do you it wasnt near 100% duty cycle? There isnt a controller monitoring when the injectors fire so how could you know that? Id bet big cash that you were using it up there with that amount of rear wheel. Motorhead has done it with stock busa injectors but they are going to 13.5 to 1 near 300 rwhp. If you want to keep it at a safe 11.7 to 1 on the dyno and make 300 you need injectors. Just put the 650ccs in that whore and take advantage of the EMS. Then you can crank that gate as high as you want I bet you can hold lots of HP with a base spacer and stock pistons. If you dump enough fuel and keep it at 11 something to 1 it would last.....
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posted April 16, 2004 08:21 AM
I coulda sworn the DJ software on the dyno read duty cycle...if that wasnt what I was lookin at with the % on the end...then im confused
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posted April 16, 2004 08:48 AM
the thing on your PC software is called throttle percentage.....there is nothing on a dynojet that shows duty cycle of your injectors.....
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