ninjamissile
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posted February 18, 2004 05:52 AM
QUESTION FOR YOU MTC LOCK-UP GUYS
What springs and plates are you running? I was told to go back to using the stock clutch springs rather than the HD springs I have now. Also, will I still need to use the 2mm steels or can I go back to using the stock 1.6mm.
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AnotherRedHead
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posted February 18, 2004 07:45 AM
keep 2mm steels to combat warping, how long is your bike, this will depend on what springs to use....
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posted February 18, 2004 08:38 AM
definately not HD springs.I'd say stock if your at 68inch and weaker if your shorter
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ninjamissile
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posted February 18, 2004 08:46 AM
The bike is at 65inches. Maybe going to 68inches this season
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AnotherRedHead
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posted February 18, 2004 09:46 AM
I would use stockers or maybe the med/soft springs from MTC
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posted February 19, 2004 05:00 AM
Ok guys what about my drilled hub and my puller shaft with the flat spot on it to allow greater oil flow. Do I need these or is the oil flow no longer a issue with the lock-up.
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AnotherRedHead
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posted February 19, 2004 08:45 AM
the MTC lockup should come with a longer puller shaft which has already been machined. The bearing in the cover will now seat the puller shaft....
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bossman12r

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posted February 19, 2004 12:16 PM
You just added a lock up which has nothing to do with the oil getting on to the clutch plates. So you do need your drilled hub or an 02-04 hub.
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posted February 20, 2004 02:56 PM
i have a mtc, 2 stage but only have 2 passes on it. using OEM springs and 2mm steels, Oem fibers. The clutch is too soft and as soon as I get back to the track I will get more spring pressure one way or another. btw, 10" arm.
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posted February 20, 2004 03:39 PM
Entropy why need you not get the Multi stage from MTC and do you use the Muzzy ecu box?
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posted February 20, 2004 10:16 PM
I didn't get the multistage after talking to everyone who would stand still. My 10" arm launched GREAT, but i wanted to be sure that i wasn't getting clutch slippage on the big end. So a simple 2 stage seemed right for me (and it's cheaper).
Once I get the spring pressure sorted out, I think the 2 stage will suit my purposes.
I do not have a Muzzy ECU, although it would be a ball to set up, see the recording of performance, etc.
This year I am wanting to spend track time, not garage time, so i am trying to keep things simple.
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posted February 20, 2004 10:54 PM
Are you going to be in any of the TX shootouts for 68"?
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posted February 21, 2004 04:20 AM
bossman, my bike doesn't have the nutz for Shootout class, but I might do it just for head's up grins. I'll prolly just do street et for the practice.
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posted February 21, 2004 08:07 AM
You have a 1427, right. Are you spraying it? If you can run some 8.30's you should be in their to be competitive.
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posted February 21, 2004 08:17 AM
1427 yes, 8.30's????? not in my wildest dreams. 8.875 is best i've done. No spray, but i figure there is an 8.70 in there somewhere, maybe at the Mar TXO.
Hey, i'm just a fat ole slo guy, not like you whippersnappers, tearing the track up and all...
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posted February 21, 2004 09:32 AM
Come on now, how old are you? I would put a 60 shoot on that bike and runs some 8.50's
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posted February 21, 2004 11:59 AM
juice is in the plans, but not until I get so it launches consistently at low 1.40's. i need a bunch of practice.
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posted February 21, 2004 01:55 PM
At 10 over you can be on the juice in 1st and your 60's well be in the 1.4's
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posted February 21, 2004 04:23 PM
without juice and before the new lockup i was going 1.45's, but it oughta go just a tad lower, eh? gotta set up the lockup better and practice, eh?
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posted February 23, 2004 01:27 PM
Karl, you will have plenty of nutz for the shootout if you put some hose to that thing.....
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posted February 23, 2004 02:01 PM
What are some of the times in the 68" class last year?
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posted February 23, 2004 05:49 PM
quote: What are some of the times in the 68" class last year?
chuck cunningham was into 7.80's...
red, "hose" is next, but not immediately
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posted February 23, 2004 06:08 PM
WOW! I did not know they were that fast, what was the class average for the TX shoototu in 68?
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