posted January 09, 2004 08:20 AM
I have a question about the "Turbo" used> I noticed that on the "Race" set up's, that "ALL" Muzzy turbo applications require the oil to be drained from the turbo between rounds! I also noticed that they all seem to have a lot of oil mist inside the airbox.
My questions are, What causes the oil in the air Box? Why does the turbo need to be drained of oil between rounds? Will either of these things be present on the "Street" set up??
I am seriously interested in getting a turbo set up for land speed racing. I want about 400 HP! I have no problem with needing to install Special pistons and valve springs, but these 2 things I want to really understand before I buy the Muzz man's Kit!
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posted January 09, 2004 08:21 AM
Edited By: VincentHill on 9 Jan 2004 08:22
Just noticed it now has a second page!
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posted January 09, 2004 10:27 AM
Edited By: spencercyclecom on 10 Jan 2004 11:09
Vincent,
The RACE TURBO kit by Muzzys has a scavenger pump that removes the oil from the turbo housing. The reason for this is the turbo sits level or below the oil pan and the oil cannot drain back into the pan...so a pump must be incorporated into the system to pull the oil out and put it back into the pan. The RACE kit has a larger turbo and requires the front to be raked with a triple tree or by having the frame raked in oder to get the bike lowered.
I have not seen the parts break down on the Muzzys Street kit...but i understand it uses a smaller turbo and they may have positioned the turbo where the scavenge pumpm is not needed...will have to wait and see.
Doug
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posted January 09, 2004 12:08 PM
MM, dig deep, do some yard work, sell some cans or bottles. Sell your car
just kidding, I am a lil scared, just thinging about the power @ 6k(max boost)
quote:MM, dig deep, do some yard work, sell some cans or bottles. Sell your car
just kidding, I am a lil scared, just thinging about the power @ 6k(max boost)
Do not worry, after a few times out and you are used to it, you will want 50 to 100 more HP!
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posted January 09, 2004 03:50 PM
VH, it does come with a oil coolier relocator kit. With that in mind, it must be higher or right near the location of the now sitting oil cooler.
posted January 10, 2004 09:31 AM
Vince- What you saw was a failure of the seal in the Turbo. That unit was replaced and later warranted by Turbonetics.
posted January 10, 2004 01:57 PM
Thanks, I wondered why the Turbo was replaced! Does that happen often / what is the "Life" of the turbo? Is the "Street" Turbo smaller and "Less" of "More" Prone to this sort of thing? From personally watching "EVERYTHING", that was the "ONLY" thing I saw that was a problem! Everything else was just normal checking and adjusting. It was an "Extremely" clean package.
For You or DM, I first plan to run a big load of NOS and need Serious Stock size pistons to handle the NOS. I know that your pistons have the best ring location to deal with the heat of NOS & Turbo. My question is, do you have a set of Pistons that are "Stock" size that I can use for NOS? My second question is when I plan to switch over to the Turbo, can I still use them but with a Thick Base Plate and make around 350 to 400 HP? (Or will the additional deck height cause problems for cam timing and cam chain length and I will need another set with the lower Compression?)
This is not a Pipe dream! I must run NOS First to get into the 200 MPH Club (More Classes) This is what I am going to do one way or the other, Thanks for your reply and real answer!
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posted January 16, 2004 01:37 PM
((((( Muzzys is currently taking deposits, the kit will cost $5995.95 with a deposit of $2000.00 and will be shipped in 45 days.This kit comes complete and will make up to 300 hp with std pistons.
To order please call Curt @ 541-385-0706 ext-107 and thank you for contacting Muzzys ))))
posted January 16, 2004 05:01 PM
Doug Ray, Somehow I missed your post! Thanks, between what Muzzy said and what you said, it "ALL" makes a lot more sense! I am really tickeled that the Muzz man is doing this. You know what the problem is, the more power you have, the more you want. Nos has limitations and the Turbo starts where the NOS Stops. Using both, you are really in business.
Doug Ray, do you have any personal knowledge about STD size pistons for the NOS from Muzzys made in Japan?
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posted January 16, 2004 06:21 PM
none at this time.
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posted January 17, 2004 05:29 PM
What type boost controller comes with the kit?
I know it's a Street kit, but most will probably
take them to the track often, SO.
What else will be needed to USE this new HP on the track?
What mph should one expect with 275 and 750 lbs?
I'm guessing most of us are around 200lbs and the bike is around
500 add 50 for turbo am i close?
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