Mika14R
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posted September 03, 2003 01:26 PM
Billet block/billet crankshaft combo
Does anybody have both?
I look at Muzzys website, and there is that billet crankshaft with billet block doesn't have starter drive.
But if billet block goes with stock/welded crankshaft, and 60mm crankshaft goes with stock/bored block, I think that they will work together too. Am I wright??
Offtopic: Sorry about my spelling, english is not my native language and I have take few beers. But that is because winter is coming and it start to be fucking cold here in north...
  
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dougmeyer
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posted September 03, 2003 01:43 PM
Mika,
We now offer the 60mm welded stroker (with starter drive) which gives a 1375 (bored stock block) or a 1427 (with billet block) configuration. We have been testing the welded stroker in our race bikes for quite sometime and now have the confidance to offer this as an alternative to the billet crank. Ordering information on this will be on the Muzzy web site in a day or so.
Doug
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Mika14R
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posted September 03, 2003 01:56 PM
 Edited By: Mika14R on 4 Sep 2003 06:46
I have Muzzys welded crank now, but I want billet because of reliability. I use nitro on track, and drive +20000 km on street/year.
Muzzys stroker have been very good for me, but in long run I want something stronger...
My block is also bored on biggest size what is available at JE, and my opinion is that billet will be better with nitrous, because cylinder walls start to be very thin now...
Thank You
Mika Salonen
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entropy
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posted September 03, 2003 03:06 PM
Edited By: entropy on 3 Sep 2003 16:30
Mika,
I have (i hope my wife doesn't see this!):
billet block
billet crank with starter drive.
=1427cc
They work GREAT together, just don't let the compression get too high. If you get serious about building this set up we should talk as I have tried and pretty much documented lots of variations on a theme!
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Mika14R
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posted September 04, 2003 05:45 AM
Yes, propably I will build engine in winter.
Now I am checking if similar parts are available in europe, because of huge taxes when ordering parts outside EU.
Or then I have to fly in USA and bring parts with me, still cheaper than order them.
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jonwright
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posted September 04, 2003 07:28 AM
Doug or Entropy -
With putting stroker motors on the 12R or whatnot (to increase displacement) has the (presumably) increased rotational mass changed the handling characteristics of a 12R on a road course?
I'm assuming not but thought I'd ask.
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Ra12r
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posted September 04, 2003 04:08 PM
I believe the rotational mass on MOST of stroked motors is less. Mainly because of other mods that the mind of a man that strokes a motor must also do..........ie: lighter rods, no balancer, lighter pistons, lighter crank....blah blah blah
Handling characteristics always change with more torque.
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entropy
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posted September 05, 2003 01:20 AM
Jon,
I don't notice any engine-related, handling charcteristics difference, but then again, my "road course" has only one rh turn at the end of the 1/4 mi shut down area as I "rail" onto the return road at 15mph...
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entropy
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posted September 05, 2003 01:27 AM
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Yes, propably I will build engine in winter.
Now I am checking if similar parts are available in europe, because of huge taxes when ordering parts outside EU.
Or then I have to fly in USA and bring parts with me, still cheaper than order them.
Mika,
I could maybe tote yr parts over the pond when I visit Kazakstan in mid Oct. I am not sure which intermediate airport I'll go thru, but prolly Budapest or Amsterdam. Might be too complicated to arrange??? Anyway, if I can help, just say so.
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Mika14R
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posted September 05, 2003 10:43 AM
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Yes, propably I will build engine in winter.
Now I am checking if similar parts are available in europe, because of huge taxes when ordering parts outside EU.
Or then I have to fly in USA and bring parts with me, still cheaper than order them.
Mika,
I could maybe tote yr parts over the pond when I visit Kazakstan in mid Oct. I am not sure which intermediate airport I'll go thru, but prolly Budapest or Amsterdam. Might be too complicated to arrange??? Anyway, if I can help, just say so.
Thank You for your proposition, but maybe it is too complicate to get time schedules correct.
And I can take also little vacation when i go to USA.
I haven't call yet Muzzys, that do they have parts in stock, or how long delivery time they have.
I take trip next week till Intermot, Milano, and will be 2 weeks riding bike all over europe.
After that i start do something for buying those parts.
If I need help, I will take contact.
Best Regards
Mika Salonen
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