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posted August 25, 2003 01:49 PM
ZX12R Top Speed?
This has been probably discussed to death but bare with me. I understand there is a Gentleman's agreement with a 300kph/184mph limit but I was just wondering what the rpm's are on a stock 2002 ZX12R with stock gearing at 184mph? My ZX12R has -1 in the front and due to a certain situation with the oil light right now I'm not able to take it up it's top speed(yellow box rules  ) but I was also wondering what the top speed is with the -1 in the front and at what rpms?
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posted August 25, 2003 03:20 PM
Stock unrestricted in perfect conditions and a good rider would achieve a theoretical mid 190s.
down one in the front should hit redline somewhere around the 184 limit.
down 1 up 2 tops out around 175
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ballisticzx12r
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posted August 25, 2003 03:41 PM
I have an 02 with the muzzy box, on a hand help GPS I saw 192 with room to go.
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TurboBlew
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posted August 25, 2003 03:45 PM
Room to go where Bart?? 
18 x 45 gearing, best I saw lately was 185 in 100% humdity. 18x46 is ideal on a stock motor.
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whatwasthat
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posted August 26, 2003 07:09 AM
What about the restricter? Is that a myth or is it removeable?
(dumb question)-Where is it? Is it electronic or is it in the gearbox?
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Megabyte
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posted August 26, 2003 07:40 AM
 Edited By: Megabyte on 26 Aug 2003 17:11
My Stock 2k 12 did 194 on the dyno....
I should have added stock + Full Akro.
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posted August 26, 2003 08:43 AM
fact - I went 192.5 on a stock bike 18/46 (w/Muzzys pipe) @ maxton 167hp
fact - On the dyno 194 bangs the limiter using stock gearing
fact - 100% stock '01 stock pipe w/catalyst 18/46 went 182mph @ maxton
draw your own conclusions
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12RPilot
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posted August 26, 2003 01:34 PM
I thought that in theory, given no clutch slippage or rear tire spin, the stock 2000 ZX-12 is geared for slightly over 200 mph at redline. Can't remember the exact numbers for sure. (Yes, I know, there is a difference between theory and practical top speeds).
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TurboBlew
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posted August 26, 2003 02:56 PM
12R... read Bergies post. Forget about theoreticals and try to ride the bike. Dont worry.... it applies to ALL bikes....even ones in the Guiness book...lol
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posted August 26, 2003 02:57 PM
Just RIDE IT.......WFO then some more.....
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posted August 26, 2003 03:17 PM
My favorite- "My speedometer says it goes 220mph"
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BA
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posted August 26, 2003 05:29 PM
what about...."I know I was doing at least 200mph because I was way over that on the speedometer!"
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TurboBlew
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posted August 26, 2003 06:59 PM
How about this quote from a Busa owner when I tried to explain his bike wouldnt hit 185 mph:
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.. I know this bike will do 210mph... I geared it down with one less tooth on the front. Heck, I did 190 coming here on the highway..
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jonwright
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posted August 27, 2003 04:20 AM
Oh, those silly Busa owners.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted August 27, 2003 01:02 PM
LMAO@ your last post steve......when will they ever learn....dem dar silly Busa guys just aint as smart as usn's oyer har on dis har berd......
Oh yeah and Steve.....read below.....have a wonderful day... 
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posted August 28, 2003 11:12 AM
Edited By: psycho1122 on 28 Aug 2003 12:13
I went 195.8 out here in the desert back in May of 2001. This was verified by GPS and Cycle Worlds Radar gun. Paul Dean came out and gave me a hand.
00' Model,Stock gearing, pipe, map, no mirrors and Brand New 010 Tires. Tire diameter makes a significant difference. If your tire is half worn, you loose dia.-loose speed.
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zx12zx11
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posted August 28, 2003 12:06 PM
I know it will do at least 108mph, that is what the trooper said when he pulled me over to have a little talk.
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posted August 28, 2003 02:21 PM
my tests were done on stock D208s
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biloxigigalo
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posted August 29, 2003 12:56 PM
Well, I was wondering if there was any truth to the fact that some of the 2000 models are considered proto types that were unrestricted and much faster than otehr 2000 models...... I have heard of a lot of pissed off kawasaki owners that feel they were mislead thinking they were getting one of these proto types and didn't get one.... and Does any one know anything about this? I own a 2000 and I am not interested in going faster than 175 That shit is scary.... but the bastard is still excelerating and pulling the shit out of me at 175....... It have engine work done to it with the full muzzy exhaust system...
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necro
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posted August 29, 2003 02:29 PM
The most that I saw on my speedo was 190 mph. It was still pulling hard though. Hopefully, I'll get another chance to try and break that before the end of the summer.
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posted August 29, 2003 04:02 PM
"proto type" talk is just grumblings of those who can't twist the "loud handle". There is no such thing as a "proto type" version of the A1 model that was ever available to the global market
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12RPilot
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posted August 30, 2003 04:45 AM
However, the green models have proven to be superior
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posted August 30, 2003 05:50 AM
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However, the green models have proven to be superior
yes, they sure have! 201mph on TFA motor
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posted September 15, 2003 06:26 PM
This has been probably discussed to death but bare with me. I understand there is a Gentleman's agreement with a 300kph/184mph limit but I was just wondering what the rpm's are on a stock 2002 ZX12R with stock gearing at 184mph? My ZX12R has -1 in the front and due to a certain situation with the oil light right now I'm not able to take it up it's top speed(yellow box rules ) but I was also wondering what the top speed is with the -1 in the front and at what rpms?
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necro
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posted September 15, 2003 07:43 PM
Edited By: necro on 15 Sep 2003 20:43
The most relieable # that I've seen since the 12 came out is the numbers that Muzzy got when they did their run with the East Coast Timing Association present.
That run was done on a short runway too.
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