R1DER
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posted August 06, 2003 05:36 AM
New boy needs convincing...
Good morning america and everyone else who's listening..
I'm an R1 owner and want to go for the ZX12R..
It's not an out and out speed thing, I want a tad more comfort but don't want to scrifice speed or power..
SO, what you got for me ??????
p.s. I love the look of the 12 also.....
   
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posted August 06, 2003 06:50 AM
...about the only thing you'll sacrifice in the change up is the light weight of the R1 and subsequent change in handling (although to some people like our own resident crafstman and bike wrangler named Dino, it doesn't make a difference  )...comfort you'll get...power?...speed?...a quantumn leap...to steal a phrase from an old Porsche ad: "Nothing even comes close."
Enjoy.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted August 06, 2003 07:04 AM
I have 2 words for ya....."RIDE IT"
We dont need to sell you on the 12, it will sell its self......
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R1DER
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posted August 06, 2003 07:38 AM
Sounds good to me, i'll see if I can hook up a test ride..
thanks...
Maybe one day I'll be back....With a good reason to be here...hehehehehe
By the way, don't you guys have a gallery on this forum ????
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TurboBlew
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posted August 06, 2003 07:40 AM
Put a 180 rear tire on it, stiffen the front fork springs, and put some braided steel lines on the front. The bike will handle like any 750 or 900.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted August 06, 2003 07:40 AM
my brother rides a GSXR 1k, calls my 12 my 200mph couch....I have put 4 and 500 miles in a day on it, and love it.....think I may take a road trip up to MI from southern GA this fall.....dont know if I would try that on an R1...
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k bryant
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posted August 06, 2003 09:09 AM
BIG DIFF, BIG DIFF. I sold my '02 R1, for '03 12. It's like going from an Indy car to a Stock car. You still have the speed and pretty good handling, but it's a lot heavier.
The R1 is completely flickable and a real scalpal in the turns. The 12 needs advance thinking to make it go fast around corners. It is definetly not flickable... The 12 is much more comfortable, and much easier on the wrists. The 12 is way, way, way faster after 100 mph. The top end rush is incrediable. The 12 gets about 10 mpg less than the R1. The 12 requires valve adjustments much more frequently (R1 = 26k between adjustments). The 12 rides two-up much more comfortably. I could go on and on....
Overall, I like the 12 much more. It garners much more attention and it's in a league completely on it's own. It looks like nothing else. It is the king-shit-get-the-fuck-out-of-my-way-I-own-the-road-nasty. The R1 looks just like the R6 and blends in. And best of all, it's a Kawasaki and you'll be able to get advice and general shite from this board. Don't really need to know anything else. Go buy it!
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posted August 06, 2003 10:25 AM
I agree............after owning 30+ bikes, the things a beast. If you just put a pipe (Acropovic or Muzzy) and a PC3R on it you will gain an amazing 15 + rear wheel HP!!!!!!! Nothing else comes close! Plus I've done 500 miles a day many times and my butt is OK (Corbin seat is a must)! The most over looked bike of the century in my opinion...........except here of course. ;-)
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Megabyte
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posted August 06, 2003 03:23 PM
The only downside to the 12 is that it has the rep of a spoiler so not many will even dare challenge you. Those who do, quickly learn the hard way. If you want a good race, you'll have to speed through town fast enough to get the locals on your tail I'm joking of course, but the rest is pretty much true, so much so that when someone does want to race, I usually need to be proded because I feel like I don't have anything to prove....With 212 real wheel hp, I can spin the rear wheel or lift the front with a flick of the wrist. Burning rubber in your challenger's ear really gets his attention, especially @ speeds over 100 mph
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posted August 06, 2003 04:17 PM
So true...
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posted August 06, 2003 05:54 PM
What they said.
I took all the decals off of mine. Folks think it's "only" a 9R. I don't say much if they don't know the difference. But they find out once we hit the road. 
JATO Barcalounger, muh man. I equate the 12R to a BMW M5. Fast as stink, but still VERY comfortable. And rather practical.
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posted August 07, 2003 07:13 PM
You are going to be handling must heavier bike. I don't know that you'll like it.
The torque is addivctive, but you might not like the difference in handling.
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posted August 07, 2003 07:14 PM
If I had the money, I'd buy a ZX6R for every day fun and would keep the 12 just to do high speed runs evey once in a while.
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posted August 07, 2003 07:14 PM
And even though it's more comfortable than an R1, the comfort is marginal. I could noly do about a 100 miles in one sitting at the most.
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posted August 07, 2003 07:31 PM
When I rode the ZX6RR at Fontana with the KMC guys, I felt like a monkey focking a football. I just couldn't get comfee with it. And if you dropped it below 10k, it was useless. Believe it or not, I went much faster on the Z1000 when they put good tires on it and Renthal bars. Just too used to big bikes, lots-o-power/torque, with a slight hinge in the middle...
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posted August 07, 2003 08:09 PM
da 12 is da shite.....
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necro
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posted August 07, 2003 10:37 PM
quote:
da 12 is da shite.....
I suppose you're used to big bikes. I, on the other hand, feel like a potato on the 12 
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R1DER
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posted August 07, 2003 10:57 PM
So do you guys have a gallery ora site I can scope out some pics of the 12...?
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posted August 07, 2003 11:06 PM
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R1DER
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posted August 08, 2003 02:39 AM
Been there done that !
I was hoping for some real life pictures.....
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted August 08, 2003 03:16 AM
some of the old threads of pics of carious bikes, but I dont have any pics posted to the web.....
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posted August 08, 2003 04:04 AM
 Edited By: ScaredyCat on 8 Aug 2003 05:05
I had a ZXR400 (insurance after a speeding ban on a GPZ900R) - boy are those small bikes hard work! 10,000 rpm and it starts to move - which just isn't the way I like to ride. The 12 has got power and torque just fu**in' EVERYWHERE, and the top end is quite good too.... :-)
I get people asking "so is that a 600?", the damn thing has "12" written all down the side in big letters!
I just say "yeah".
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It's not an out and out speed thing
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My quote:
Yes, it is.
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R1DER
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posted August 08, 2003 04:12 AM
Well yeah it will probably end up being a speed thing, but that's not my main concern with the bike...
WHO AM I TRYING TO KID ?
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted August 08, 2003 06:12 AM
Cat....I have all the stickers off both of my bikes....no name tapes, no stickers, no markings anywhere.....I keep them guessing......If they dont know by looking, I am not gonna tell them.....lol
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posted August 08, 2003 07:21 AM
I don't have any stickers on mine, either. I might just put some '9R' stickers just for an extra 'terrorism' factor.
You know, some minor mods really help the 12R handle pretty well. It is way different (even with mods) than a 600. But the payoff is the serious acceleration.
My little 600 has been relegated to track bike (not that it's a bad bike). I got tired of shifting all the damned time running the twisties.
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