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posted June 28, 2003 12:04 PM
Best price fer Arai Helmets?
Where? thoughts?
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posted June 28, 2003 03:41 PM
Here's a thought:
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posted June 28, 2003 03:43 PM
thanks.....
BTW that helped.... just got off the phone ordering it~!
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posted June 28, 2003 04:27 PM
So you have ordered it? I usually can pick up the replica's for 425 to 475 plus tax. Don't know how that compares. If you want me to check let me know the model size etc. and I'll check on it Tuesday.
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posted June 28, 2003 04:29 PM
ordered an RX7RR4 for 445USD shipped. (solid black) seemed pretty reasonable.
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posted June 28, 2003 04:50 PM
Did you try Bombay's place? He has some smoking deals on helmets.
My new RX7 was $300 delivered...NEW!
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posted June 28, 2003 05:03 PM
no... what's the #??
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posted June 28, 2003 06:26 PM
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posted June 29, 2003 06:00 AM
Yo Turbo:
Was that $300 for the new RX7RR??
Sounds like a smokin deal.
Does "Bombay" have a web site??
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posted June 29, 2003 07:18 AM
thx.... may be too late as it's sunday.. doubt he's there but I'll give it a shot
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posted June 29, 2003 08:28 AM
Vmax...yeah it was new. I just happend to luck out, I guess. It was a KR Double Eagle replica
Of course there is a seller on Ebay that has new ones too for $400 shipped.
I almost choked when I saw a local dealer with the same helmet with a $769 price tag on it. Who the f*** would pay that much for a helmet?
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posted June 29, 2003 06:45 PM
hey I have a question for you guys - I've been an "Arai guy" for the past 10 years. I love the Arai fit, finish and QUIETNTESS (and lightness) - but I HATE the Arai price. I was at Keith Code's class recently and I found out that he likes KBC... in fact... here is a quote from his website:
"KBC Helmets
Check out the new VR-1 from KBC. KBC is one of the world's largest helmet manufacturers and their first big push into the plush helmet market is noteworthy. We have been using them for over several years now and the improvements have been like clockwork, every year they are upgrading their line. Not only that but the price will shock you. KBC has proven that quality does not cost an arm and a leg.
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Anyone know if the KBC's are as quiet/light/protected as Arai's??
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posted June 29, 2003 06:57 PM
Death.... the Arai price is nothing more than a suckers retail cost to cloud your buying decision. Bottom line, the solid colors go for $280-320 and the replicas go as high as $500 if you shop around. The newer Shoeis are nice...although theyve never fit me well.
HJC, KBC, and others may make a decent helmet...but Im not willing to experiment with them. YMMV
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posted June 29, 2003 07:32 PM
The KBC racer have quite a resemblance to the Arai RX7 series.
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posted June 30, 2003 05:23 AM
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I never said this before because I wanted to avoid the pissing contest but here goes: Building helmets ain't rocket science. It takes nothing at all for an offshore manufacturer to tear apart an Arai and copy it exactly. Not saying they do, but why wouldn't they? Same for copying other helmets out there. So you skip the R&D work and get the same materials and start building helmets that are identical, using $2 a day skilled labor. These companies probably stole a few engineers from a big time helmet manufacturing company with a juicy contract. Hell, the engineer may have split and started the knock off helmet company himself. That's the way industry is these days. And have you ever seen an objective test that said "Helmet A kicked ass on Helmet B in the impact test"? I don't recall an objective test that even compared helmet safety. The key word is objective. Now there will always be a group that will say that only the most expensive helmet offers enough protection. That's going to be the case when discussing any subject. Some guys think that if you don't have Snap-On tools you can't fix your bike. Hey, whatever gives you peace of mind. If your $600 helmet gives you a warm feeling, then that's one less thing to distract you when you ride. I'll stick with my brand. It fits great and looks good. And it works for many professional riders. I wouldn't get my helmet at the local bicycle shop; a little common sense goes a long way on this subject. And finally, some will say that if you value your head you would spend as much as possible on your helmet. I say, if you value your head then don't transport it at triple digit speeds past solid objects. I think I can find an objective test that says THAT impact would be bad for you. (OK, flame on brothers)
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posted June 30, 2003 05:34 AM
Oh yeah, before I relinquish my soapbox: Yes, some guys find the fit of the most expensive helmet available is best for them. Some feel that the comfort of the most expensive helmet is best for them. Helmet purchase is a rather personal choice. Everyone should consider fit, weight, comfort, quality, noise, etc. But Joe Blow with helmet B isn't necessarily getting less protection because his helmet cost less than helmet A. There, I'll go take my nap now.
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posted June 30, 2003 06:50 AM
So you like the cheaper helmets 12R? I'm just curious, because I need to get a new helmet soon.. my Arai is about 4 years old, and if I can get a decent, light, low noise helmet for 150 bucks... I'd MUCH sooner purchase it then pay 300 to 400.
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posted June 30, 2003 07:21 AM
I didn't find THAT good of a deal. I found an HJC at the dealership that fit real nice and then ordered it off the net when I found it on sale. Of course, I make sure my helmets are DOT and Snell approved. Like I said, a little common sense goes a long way.
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posted June 30, 2003 09:33 AM
Im not advocating one helmet or the other. Same way a set of $300 leathers protects just like a $2,000 set of Vansons.
Sorry Ive got too much time and $$$ invested in my head to gamble. If I over pay $100 or so thats fine. How many other manufacturers offer a 5yr warranty?
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posted June 30, 2003 09:41 AM
Look at this site:
www.afxhelmets.com
I bought a helmet from them a few years back. Very well constructed, inexpensive, newest line is Snell approved, too.
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posted June 30, 2003 09:41 AM
I use to work for the Griffin helmet MFG co. back in the 80s. All helmets that have a DOT or Snell sticker on them have to pass the same set of test, no matter the price of the helmet.
The only difference in the helmets are the materials that are use to make the helmet.. ie; platic, fiberglass or C/F and the finish materials.
Now is not to say that fit and finish don't play a part in the comfort of the helmet. But don't be fooled into thinking that a $749. is any better than a $150. helmet with the same DOT or Snell rating..
I have to agree with 12rpilot, Buy what you can afford and what feels good on you...No matter what the price.... Just make sure to look for the DOT and Snell sticker.... No sticker No buy...
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posted June 30, 2003 01:10 PM
There is a bit more to this IMHO. Sure you could knock off an Arai or Shoei, and most certainly all helmets will protect you. But that is where it ends. Think about this for a while, just a slight difference in foam could turn a perfect fit into a crappy one in a matter of weeks. Just a slight difference in lining material can make a helmet feel like your head is inside a steam room. Lousy venting (even though lots of it) can blow across your eyes and make any extended trip miserable. Shield materials and shape might seem OK when new, but if they are not optically correct (which Arai's shields are) the world can be a fuzzy distorted place. Listen a brain bucket is a brain bucket and those are for Harley riders. But a quality helmet reduces fatigue, kinda like a Motel 6 or 5 star hotel room, both protect but comfort is more important to me.
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posted June 30, 2003 01:17 PM
Of course, the DOT and Snell tests are minimum standards. Expensive helmets may very well offer more protection. I couldn't say because I've never seen an objective test of helmets. That's probably due to liability issues as well as the difficulty in simulating real world crashing. I think this subject is kinda like oil and tires. I'm certainly not going to tell some guy he's wrong in his choice of helmet.
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posted June 30, 2003 03:47 PM
Expensive helmets may well last longer also. My wife's less expensive brand has various issues even though it's been lightly used. (Snell rated though) My Arai has at least *50 times the hours* on it and it is still in good shape. I'm considering replacing it just due to time, but it is still in great shape. I've bought a new shield and a new breath deflector.
My next helmet will be an Arai. Period. (and almost for certain a Quantum) Excellent fit (for me), excellent detail and quality, and long life under heavy use make it a no brainer. (bad pun intended)
That said, I doubt that one snell rated helmet could be demonstrated to provide better protection under all types of impacts than another.
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