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cliffrandall


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posted December 03, 2001 02:55 PM        
The goal is set, I need a 9.20

Hi Guys......I asked "Robert from Montreal", (cause he's fast), what a good time would be on my Muzzy 1270, making 196 true hp, corrected SAE @ 193hp. He indicated a 9.20 with a 170lb rider. I weigh 185lbs, (ripped of course), so we'll set 9.30 as a target, after a few practice runs. The only further mods I'll make are strapping the front end and installing a Muzzy full racing clutch. The frame will remain stock.
I've not been on a dragstrip in past, (except when they called it a straightaway while roadracing), so if all goes well, next summer I'll give it a go. It just looks like too much fun.
Let's see just how fuckin difficult it is for a layman to get one of these baby's off the line, the rest seems pretty academic.
Should prove interesting, hopefully I won't be pushing it home!
Cheers,
Cliff

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kingzx12r


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posted December 03, 2001 07:16 PM        
Hey Cliff if you need some help let me know.
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PaulVincent


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posted December 03, 2001 07:31 PM        
Cliff, Be sure to report back once you get down the strip. No doubt there will be many of us watching to see what results you get.
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zx12mark


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posted December 03, 2001 09:54 PM        
cliff

find yourself a spot on the hiway where you can get on an entrance ramp. go along around 4k in 1st. get set. lean forward as for as you can. without pulling the clutch in turn that fucking throttle wide open. you will wheelie big time. learn to shift while power wheeling at around 11k. shut down after 4th. then get off the next exit and do it again. keep goinig around your little track a few times. do it a couple a times a week till you can red line 1st thru 4th being able to take the abuse on your body.these bikes will tear your wrist apart.buy a push button powershifter after you learn how to clutchless shift at red line.95% of all sport bike riders can't handle or do this to a zx12r. if you have to short shift then the bike beat you. most of you guys will never be able to do this.please don't hurt yourself trying guys.watch out for tank slappers while the front tire skims the pavement.. .killer

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cliffrandall


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posted December 04, 2001 05:41 AM        
Zx What are you crazy.....I plan to spend all my spare time waxing my bike and cleaning my leathers. Shit it's not how fast you run, but what you look like doing isn't it!
Here are (4) possibilities for my debut at the strip:
1- I flip the bike in the burn-out pit and shame myself to the point that I'm never heard from again.
2- I stall the bike when the light turns green and fall off, with the bike landing on me. A bunch of fat chicks come running over from the stands and pick me and my bike up, the crowd goes wild as I wave.
3- I get the fucker rollin and run a sub 10. Hopefully I stop before running out of track. Again, the crowd goes wild, until everyone realizes I paid the fat chicks in the front row, then I'm attacked stripped naked and beatin!
4- I shock the motorcycling community by ripping off a 8.20 World record, sign a huge contract with Muzzys and head to Vegas to party......never to be heard from again.
Either way, I win, I was there!
Cheers,
Cliff

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entropy


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posted December 04, 2001 06:58 AM        
Cliff: go for it!!!

Cliff:

9.20's, eh??? Go for it, lofty goals are good for the soul, but if you are going to do it with a stock arm, I'd start practicing at a track, and go REAL often... Hey, its just a matter of managing the clutch and throttle; can that be so hard???

good luck!!!!!

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swft


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posted December 04, 2001 07:34 AM        
My man Entropy speaks much truth...

I've taken my 1270 bike to the track a number of times, and honestly, it's *MUCH* easier to launch a stock bike. It's that fucking torque hump around 7500 rpm. I've come out off the line real nice, gotten a good (for me!) 60' time, and had that fucker stand on it's tail in first, second, and third gear! While the crowd loved it (wheelied all the way past the 1/8th mile mark before getting the front end to stay down) it was an utter shit time. The best run I ever made was by babying it through first, shortshifting into second and third, and then just letting it roll down the track. On that run, I was against a pro bike (this was bracket racing, mind you) and he had me by 10mph at the 1/8 mile mark. On the other hand, I had him by 20mph at the 1/4 mile mark.
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silver01bullit


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posted December 04, 2001 07:43 AM        Edited By: silver01bullit on 4 Dec 2001 07:43
I'd probably take the gearing down to 17/46 to start. If I'm not mistaken Cliff, aren't you running a 17/50? that could be a handful at the strip. Good luck!!!!
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jessz1


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posted December 04, 2001 08:52 AM        
Have you had yours lowered and strapped before? You will be amazed at how much it calms the beast. I am still not used to how hard I can leave the line compared to when I am in roadrace mode.
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cliffrandall


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posted December 04, 2001 09:58 AM        
Currrent gearing, (in preparation for next summer), is back to 18-50 combo.
The only thing that's been strapped down around here in past, is my neighbours nasty wife!!
My hybrid set-up has been down 1 1/2" in the front via raising the fork tubes, and Muzzy linkages in the rear for 2 1/2" down. Nice flat look!
Do thet sell sexy straps designed specifically for the 12, I want something in a Gold.
Cheers,
Cliff

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entropy


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posted December 04, 2001 10:36 AM        
one last thing!

Cliff:
outside of the front strap (good luck on the gold) the only 2 things you'll definitely need are:

1. Rony Ayers' ph number: Ph:800.888.3084 (ask for Jarrod)

2. these parts #'s
13088-1131, regular frictions (use w/Muzzy kit, need 10)
13088-1132, skinny frictions (use w/Muzzy kit, need 1)
13089-1124, steels,T=2.0 (use w/Muzzy kit, need 10)


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cliffrandall


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posted December 04, 2001 12:31 PM        
Thanks entropy, but what are they?
Cheers,
Cliff

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entropy


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posted December 04, 2001 01:44 PM        
clutch plates.

It might be cheaper to fly to KCadby's locale and take lessons from him. He's the only one I know who goes fast and doesn't burn clutches.

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cliffrandall


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posted December 04, 2001 05:08 PM        
Whats wrong with the Muzzy racing hub and clutch?
Thanks,
Cliff

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kingzx12r


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posted December 05, 2001 07:46 AM        
Cliff come by my house I'll hook you up with a little spray hee hee.
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HotRodNinja


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posted December 05, 2001 10:07 AM        
Don't forget the wheelbase. I added two links to my chain and it helped a LOT. Get the thing out to the end of the adjusters. Of course an extension is the best bet, but every inch is good for a tenth or more.
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entropy


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posted December 05, 2001 10:29 AM        
quote:
Whats wrong with the Muzzy racing hub and clutch?
Thanks,
Cliff


absolutely nothing wrong with Muzzy clutch parts; au contraire mon frere, they are practically required.

The clutch plates are needed (at least for me) so I can wind up the throttle to a big hp, then use the cluch to apply as much hp as possible without getting the f wheel too far up. Delicate balancing act, but with even a fat ass like me can get better times than without slipping the clutch. downside is the plates don't last too long

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kcadby


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posted December 05, 2001 01:26 PM        
Yup...that WILL be fun for SURE...
I LOVE power wheelies...shifting in the air

Get that axle back as far as you can!!!
Wait AT LEAST 20-minutes between runs (use fan from behind on clutch side, it will help keep frame/air-box cool too) and your clutch will last longer...
(not you entropy...no hope for you...LOL)

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entropy


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posted December 05, 2001 01:59 PM        
quote:

(not you entropy...no hope for you...LOL)


KC: well, actually there might be hope. The 6" ext arm and 17/50 have me going WOT with clutch fully engaged real quick out of the box. Didn't get enough passes to really get after this method yet, but will try again this weekend if the damn rain doesn't spoil my fun.

TeamFatAss says: "while you lazy guys are cooling off your bikes, we are out there incinerating clutches..."

Upside is that Ron Ayer sent me a free T shirt, 'cause I'm such a good customer .

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