kcadby
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posted May 13, 2003 05:44 PM
HMMMmmm...COWBOY's PROOF that...Ass-Dyno is NOT as good as REAL DYNO!?!?!? 
   
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frEEk
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posted May 14, 2003 12:55 AM
damn cowboy, given the amount of retard & fuel we gave it, i'da thought it would make more than 15hp diff. go figure.
hey, ever get it all sorted out with the kid?
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Tearinitup
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posted May 14, 2003 09:57 AM
You need to get your ass dyno in for service if you can't pick up on a 15 hp drop. 
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posted May 14, 2003 10:36 AM
I sure as hell can feel it when I hit the button to retard the timing 6 degrees on my bike at WOT. (you get a sinking feeling knowing your bottle is empty at this point)
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Cowboy
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posted May 14, 2003 03:35 PM
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I sure as hell can feel it when I hit the button to retard the timing 6 degrees on my bike at WOT. (you get a sinking feeling knowing your bottle is empty at this point)
Yes YCIS,when i rode waynes bike and it was mapped for nos with added fuel and retarded 6 degrees it was very noticeable.Maybe the map is adding fuel but not retarding timing??I have to do the dyno with a sniffer to still make sure.
Zooligan or anyone else running the high pressure fuel pump.Do you know exactly what %more fuel it pushes so i could just drop all the fuel values in the map that much??This map feels real good right now(Vincent+Lawsons map off the zx-12r site)and i am going to install the muzzy pump next week
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Zhooligan
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posted May 14, 2003 03:37 PM
Have not actually tested the fuel pressure.
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kcadby
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posted May 14, 2003 04:31 PM
I'd have to look at John's before and after maps...
You DO know that...bikes will vary...as usual...
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Cowboy
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posted May 14, 2003 05:25 PM
Yes,every bike will vary but the muzzy fuel pumps should not.If someone had before and after maps that would give me a idea
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fish_antlers
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posted May 15, 2003 05:09 AM
Sorry zxlnt..... if you dig out the potting it says "Copywrite Dynojet"
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Zx12RNinja
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posted May 15, 2003 07:29 AM
 Edited By: Zx12RNinja on 15 May 2003 08:31
Fish wheres your proof that Dyno Jet makes Yosh Box? Anybody can say RCA makes toasters and TVs out og the same plant but I have to see proof frist.
I'm a show me kind of person.
Show me your proof?
Copyright is a patent deal. that don't mean the same company makes them with the same materals. Its just the ideal or theory.
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TedG
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posted May 15, 2003 08:16 AM
That notice could be there because Yosh may ahve wanted to use a portion of DJs design that they copyrighted. It could be something as simple as the serial hardware. Or anything. All it takes is one tiny portion and they have to put on the notice.
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zxlnt
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posted May 15, 2003 12:00 PM
I would love to see a picture... Who yosh box got all dug out???
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fish_antlers
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posted May 15, 2003 05:59 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 15 May 2003 19:01
I know for a fact that it happens to say that, folks... I'll grab a pic fer ya in the next day er so... ... (sorry I'm busy with werk.. (real werk) )..
Ted... yer wrong on this one...
Zx12R... I'm not making this up.. I'm simply stating a fact....
the Yoshbox is pure 100% DJ ..
And people here owe DJ a HUGE apology as they continue to innovate and create excellent products.
BTW The failure rate on the PC3 has been less than 2 per 80000 units. That's way better than the clutch on the 12... and a lot of other things people here happen to own.
Lets just say that I know what I'm talking about on this one.
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TedG
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posted May 15, 2003 08:40 PM
No appology from me, I never said shit about the quality of the Yosh, all you are telling me is the Yosh is a POS also.
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kawachan
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posted May 16, 2003 09:09 AM
I'm dying here!!
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BTW The failure rate on the PC3 has been less than 2 per 80000 units.
HAHA!!!!!!!! Ok, let me get off the floor cause I'm rolling with laughter...
I have that Yosh three way map switch here at work with me. Do you want me to tear it down and see if it has DynoJUNK stamped in it somewhere??
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zx1012r
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posted May 16, 2003 11:18 AM
Yeah like I'm going to apologize to Dynojet for a peice of shit (the first time around) and commend them for treating me like I don't know squat and it must have been ME that fucked up their peice of shit! Gimme a break!
By the way after 15,000 miles my clutch is fine.
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zx1012r
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posted May 16, 2003 11:21 AM
By the way I guess they must be a new sponser of this site for you to be ignoring all the previous posts about failures on this one.
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your car is slow
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posted May 16, 2003 12:25 PM
Sorry man..but ive known at least 5 people personally who have had problems with PC3 or PC3Rs.....and read about a dozen more people who have had problems.
So lets take 15 people...x 80000
Thats 1.2 MILLION powercommanders.
Now perhaps im just not looking at the grand scheme of things...but I cant believe there are that many powercommanders in existance.
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Cowboy
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posted May 16, 2003 08:04 PM
and lets take the statistics one step further to only zx12s.I have only seen 4 zx12s with power comanders personally.3 of them came off the bike fucked up!!!!!!!.That is 75% fail rate!!for a piece of shit!
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fish_antlers
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posted May 16, 2003 10:28 PM
Are you guys counting all the failures that were caused by install error (owners crushing the wiring harness and shorting out the unit) as being DJ's fault? Let's talk about REAL failures and not a mistake that was made by someone when they installed the unit.
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posted May 16, 2003 11:35 PM
I was recently at a shop, brand new R6. Brand new USB PCIIIR for the R6. Watched a professional race mechanic install the PCIIIR as per instructions. The PCIIIR lasted exactly 1 cycle of the igniton key. Watched removal of said PCIIIR. Bike started and ran great after removal. Nuff said.
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Cowboy
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posted May 17, 2003 07:14 AM
NUFF SAID.Sell your stocks Fish
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fish_antlers
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posted May 17, 2003 09:50 AM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 17 May 2003 11:24
My apologies... I contacted DJ and the actual failure rate for the PC3 is 1-3%... I misread the # when I posted the "2 in 80K" figure ....
never the less... the unit does work.... and guess what... the unit inside the Yoshbox IS a powercommander...
Sell my stocks? You just bought a powercommmander Cowboy...
How many companies in the world do you think there really are that specialize in this product anyways?
BTW... . Yosh ISNT one of them... they just stick their name on it and jack ya fer some more cash...
"ignorance is bliss" Cowboy...
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gg
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posted May 17, 2003 10:02 AM
Edited By: gg on 17 May 2003 11:03
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BTW... . Yosh ISNT one of them... they just stick their name on it and jack ya fer some more cash...
Kind like...
Ford Expedition = Lincoln Navigator
Nissan and Infinity
Honda and Acura.....
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Cowboy
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posted May 17, 2003 08:52 PM
quote:
quote:
BTW... . Yosh ISNT one of them... they just stick their name on it and jack ya fer some more cash...
Kind like...
Ford Expedition = Lincoln Navigator
Nissan and Infinity
Honda and Acura.....
EXACTLY!!!I paid a little more for the Navigator
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