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Niuhi


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posted April 28, 2003 08:55 PM        
Re: PCIII info needed

Okay I just went back and tried to find all the threads that discuss the unit. It was suggested to me to get a PC to get rid of the lean conditon at partial throttle and the annoying herky jerky crap when accelerating at low speeds. My question is this, "has the PCIII been made more reliable and what about the Yosh". I understand this subject has been beaten to death, but since it seems a lot of the threads are older I'm holding out the hope that they got their shit toghether, cuz after reading all the stories I'm not much interested in going through those nightmares.

One other thing, being a short rider, 5'7" and 190lbs, how can I make this bike fit a bit better (height wise). Does the Corbin saddle make a difference and or is there a mechanical means that wont affect the handling. Any and all info would be greatly appreciated.
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kawachan


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posted April 29, 2003 06:39 AM        
Supposedly the new PC's by DynJet have a new thicker wiring harness with better shielding. Seem to be a better product than the older units.

I have a Yosh EMS and am extremely satisfied with it. I had a PC!!! but liked the extra features the Yosh offered. Maps will interchange between the two if you can cut and paste with a computer and both programs. The only drawback I see is that the Yosh box has to be manually custom mapped at any DynoJet center.

A custom map made by a GOOD dyno operator will fix the lean and jerky conditions you are having. My bike rides almost smooth as stock.

You can take your factory seat and mod the cushion in it to give you more leg room. Also, you can drop the front and back evenly to give you more room, but you will lose a bit of ground clearance in corners.
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Niuhi


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posted April 29, 2003 02:37 PM        
kawachan thanks for the feedback. As far as the lowering, I am willing to give a little in height just to make this thing more comfortable for me. What is required to lower the front a rear?
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kangpow


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posted April 29, 2003 03:53 PM        
I am 5' 6'' and 170lbs, I put the muzzy lower links ( set it in the middle setting ) and drop the front down about 1''. The bike feels perfect.
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posted April 29, 2003 04:17 PM        
Just remember that you're gonna lose some ground clearance if you lower your bike. So, if you like to ride aggressively in the twisties and drag knee around corners, be careful because stuff will start scraping much earlier.

But, if you're pretty mellow in the corners, dropping the ride height shouldn't be an issue.
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kawachan


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posted April 30, 2003 07:22 AM        
"Raising" the forks in the trees is the easy way to drop the front. A strap will wok but you won't have as much suspension play then.

Also, Kennedy makes fully adjustable stainless turnbuckles so you can fine tune the rear ride height to suit you. I have a set so I can lower mine for the dragstrip and back to stock height for the street. They are about $125 though. Muzzy and other companies make three hole links. The middle hole usually works for most people.
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Niuhi


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posted April 30, 2003 11:28 AM        
Thanks guys, where did you purchase your links?
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kawachan


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posted April 30, 2003 01:08 PM        
Call Vic at Kenedy Machine Can't find the number right now.....?!?
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posted April 30, 2003 07:40 PM        
Kennedy Machine & Tool - 765 724 2225

ask for Victor Faulstich

or email at:
kirkham.sonny@kennedymachine.com



I like them a lot more than the 3-hole style. It's essentially 2 eye-bolts and a carrier and lock nuts. spinning the carrier raises/lowers the bike.



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posted April 30, 2003 07:46 PM        
watch the buy&sell forum... those have been in there more than once and the go fer cheap too!
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entropy


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posted May 01, 2003 03:18 AM        
DO NOT STRAP THE FORKS EXCEPT AT 1/4 MILE!!!!!!!

I ain't kiddin' here folks... Yes indeed you can lower the front end by strapping it, but you remove 90% of the f wheel compliance.

The first time you try to apply the front brake even moderately in a corner with a strapped bike you will flash on the advice above... right as the front end washes out.

i ain't talking theory here...

DO NOT STRAP THE FORKS EXCEPT AT 1/4 MILE!!!!!!!
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posted May 01, 2003 05:05 AM        
Amen, bro...I hear ya there...
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Niuhi


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posted May 01, 2003 07:20 PM        
Any other suggestions beside me going in for surgery to get my legs lengthened. By strapping your refering to the lowering links, correct?
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posted May 01, 2003 11:11 PM        
Tell that to swft! He asked be to ride his 1347 silver 12 home from MVR's shop a couple years ago. It was strapped and lowered. I asked it's ok to ride on the street? Swft said yes so I jumped on it and hauled ass out of the shop. Turned onto the freeway on-ramp grabbed a fist full of throttle a blip of the clutch and pop into a nice wheelie (thats what life is about!! ). Ran down the on-ramp grinning, set it down and it landed with a eye blurring thud, I then pitched it hard into the right hand sweeper to merge with traffic and the bastard turned with all of the agility of a supertanker! I barely survived the turn and merge! Thought I had bought the farm. So I concur about the lowering straps!


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vmaxwayne


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posted May 02, 2003 06:16 AM        
I'm 5'6" and have the same vertical challenge.

I dropped the forks by ~1" and have the dogbones in second hole, can both feet almost flat on ground.

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kcadby


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posted May 02, 2003 09:47 AM        
Don't go ANY more than an inch down with the forks...
THEY ARE TAPPERED and it will cause un-do stress on the lower tree when you tighten the bolts...
I KNOW there are people that go more and might say "IT WORKED FOR ME OK" but I'm tellin ya...it is NOT safe on the street to go any lower in the trees with the forks
I'm 5-6 short also and have lowered every bike I've ever owned...

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Niuhi


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posted May 02, 2003 10:00 PM        
Thanks for the tips, they are much appreciated.
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