Zhooligan
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posted April 24, 2003 12:21 PM
Much of my banter is really intended to fire up Kawi people. We need to not allow or be accepting of less then the best from Kawi. It is all about attitude by the company.
Swft and I talked about this the other day. Ferarri, Ducati are small companies. But they prove year in and year out that comitment to building the best makes them the best. Essentilly Ducati, Ferarri and Honda cn do what ever they want to because the people within the company at the top are comitted to winning. I would like to see some of that spill into Kawasaki's mentality.
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jonwright
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posted April 26, 2003 07:18 AM
KInda tough, though, because Kawi is part of a large conglomerate. The motorcycle division guys have to take their eye off the motorcycle ball to get resources (budget, headcount) from the parent.
Ferarri and Duke as rather small and they can stay focused. Yeah, they aren't independent, but they have a clear vision and sole purpose.
Let's hope Kawi finds theirs, but I think they are getting there. The new bikes of theirs coming out are really nice. Too bad they can only focus on one or two at a time whereas Honda can do so many.
But keep in mind that Ducati has models that have gone unchanged for many years, much like Kawi. And the 7R has been competitive in Bostrom's hands - a great compliment to original design and great talent.
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djZX12
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posted April 27, 2003 03:32 AM
Honda's Suck!!
They are all a bunch of hype. They come out with something and make a big splash in the pan. Advertise to shit out of it, Pay some pro rider to make a few faster then life runs on it and then dup the public into buying their slug. As soon as someone like Kawasaki or Suzuki puts them back in their place, they call their bike a Sport Touring bike.
1969 and 70 Honda CB-750: Broke chains and balled up chain behind countershaft sprocket, breaking the cases.
Honda's Fix for the problem in 1971: Larger sprockets so it wouldn't ball up the chain and a milder cam reducing HP.
Honda's next world beater, The 1979 CBX, released in 78 to beat the Yamaha XS-1100 and Suzuki GS-1000. By 1980 they were at the back again, it was Suzuki and Kawasaki again. Honda then hung a sportfairing and bags on the CBX.
1983 Honda V-65 Magna world beater. They paid Pee Wee Gleason to make some larger then life 1/4 mile runs in the 10's, then claimed to have the fastest production bike.
The Magna was easy picken's for anyone with a good running Suzuki GS-1100E or a Kawasaki GPZ-1100. Over the next 3 years they backed about 15hp out of the first Magnas. Turning them into real pigs.
Kawasaki had been at the top of the heap with their ZX-10, then ZX-11 for years before Honda came out with the Blackbird. Another big splash in the pan!! The Busa Crushed it and it has never been a contender again. Just another of Honda's Sport Touring bikes.
Honda's Suck!!
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