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posted April 12, 2003 10:21 PM
I had the same thing leak one time...DAMMIT!
My fault though...the thermostat wasn't in "perfect" and caused the same problem 
Have fun RIDE-N it Sunday!!!
   
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posted April 18, 2003 07:17 PM
I am never trying to force a shoe on anyones foot that the shoe doesn't fit!
The issue is not with what i say, but with what several (just check above) have said that "SEEMS" to make sense until logic is applied. Then we have the "shift the issue" responses!!!
I never claim to be smarter than the smartest guys on this page. Although, i am concerned about "close statements of fact" when they are actually "mis-information"!!! My degrees,,,,, Zhooligan and Kevin,,,, are irrevelant,,,,,,my statements and information shared is very revelant though!!! Zhooligan if you are right and what i stated was wrong please correct me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but you didn't correct anything that i said! Neither did you Kevin!!! But, i really am only concerned that the information is complete and thought through otherwise folks on this page can "WASTE TIME AND MONEY" like I did following a certain companies info!!!
When my technical information that i share or comment on is wrong then i also want to know to strengthen the truth in my own personal knowledge base. Yes, a few on this site have spoken with me personally, and hopefully understand that ego or whatever outside of getting my bike very very fast is not where I am mentally. I have ask all the same cam questions that good people ask on this site. But, getting "NOOOOOOOOO" answers,,,,except from a few,,,,,,,,i went to the trenches! I "personally" got experiences in my journey. My subjective experiences I generally retain, my objective experiences I more freely share. I share with those when i can help fellow riders that are "actually" looking for answers versus posting 'retorical' questions or just "bragging"!!!
I just know that common sense and numbers must co-exist and fit according to tried and true standards. MPH is the BEST BEST BEST measure of true air pump improvement!!!! Some of us know this, but some (Kevin, Zhooligan) like the "banter" of their own posts!!!
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posted April 18, 2003 08:36 PM
ra...
I too have ALWAYS said that MPH is theee BEST measure of ACTUAL REAL WORLD HP...
People that know me in person will tell you this...
I have been a DragRacer for MANY years (and a dyno tunner for only one...so far)...and let me tell you...I was SHOCKED when I moved up here to Jax (from Palm Beach County) and saw first hand how SLOWWW (MPH) most of the racers up here go...
I have a stinkin little 10.5 : 1 compression (Squeezed to 13.14) 1105cc Z1R that is HEAVY (for a race bike) 435lb that runs 142MPH (in good air) and as slow as 135 in the heat of the summer...NOT a world record no doubt but not too shabby either...
Other than the machine work on the 3-speed auto trans (and paint jod  )...I have done everything that has ever been done to this bike/motor myself...
It doesn't just run OK...it has won many MANY rounds of racing in the years (decades) that I have raced it...
Can you tell yet...that I'm proud of my baby 
I would like to think that we would get along MUCH better in person than we seem to here ra
My biggest issue with you on here is the fact that...once again..here you are telling us everything ACCEPT WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU!!!
I come here to TRY TO help people (right or wrong as I may be)...AND to learn more about what has been by FAR...THEEE most impressive and enjoyable Motorcycle (street bike that is) to ride and work on...that I have ever come in contact with...the GREEEN ZX12R...
People that have raced with/against me me will also tell you that I will do anything I can to help them with they're bikes (this includes at the track while I am racing) and to become better racers in general...because in the long run...we ALL become better racers AND...have more fun
There seem to be a "few" people here (myself included) that...I guess just don't have/get the logic that you do...and rather than explain (HELP) people here you just tell us how we are so wrong (NOT logical???)...
NOW!!! have a nice day/weekend...
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posted April 20, 2003 06:56 AM
Enjoyed your response/reply Kevin, as you don't seem defensive this time. I have no doubt that you or even Zhooligan is probably both very good people. However, i don't reply in respect to knowing either of you personally,,,,because i truly have never met or spoken with either of you.
Honestly Kevin, my turn off with you was when i offered to help you with your 1361 build and the carrillo clearance problem and you refuse my help and then "slammed me". I offered to chat with you off the page and give you all the info to do what you were doing/going to do and the problems that you would/could have,,,,,but oh no, you sided with Zhooligan and proceeded to then forward take an arguementive position.
I personally am not a muzzy fan, but you and several others are major fans. I feel this way, because i trusted their information and it was quite lacking with results. Secondly, the customer NO SERVICE and the "RUDE RUDE" guys that answer the phone!!! Employee's represent the spirit of a company especially when it is somewhat small like Muzzy's.
But, Parts are parts and the parts i can use i do, the rest is advertising BS. Other than an air shifter, brake lines, and clutch basket/hub the rest is NOT muzzy's. To each his own choosing, but I would be glad to do a Muzzy vs Non-Muzzy challenge with you Kevin!!! We can call it a "Test of Logic's"...........just bring the fastest No nitrous zx12 that YOOUUU have built, no other conditions!
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posted April 20, 2003 08:36 AM
HOORAY!!!
KC & ra12r seem to be getting along, which is good for me, because I have gotten and followed advice from BOTH of em from time to time...
Now If I just had a MUCH bigger monitor, this 20" doesn't seem to cut it anymore on this forum
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posted April 20, 2003 03:19 PM
So ra12 again a question was asked. You have said many things in this post. But again a question was asked and you made fun of the information given but offered none yourself except for you build a better and faster mousetrap then everyone else.
I have read many of your posts. You talk about all of the various horsepower number are fiction and that you 185 horsepower is more and or better then everyone elses 195 or 200 etc. If you want to have a word sparring contest start a new post and see who wants to play the game with you.
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posted April 20, 2003 03:40 PM
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ra...
FIRST...
Let me please apologize for whatever it was that I said to you in response to you trying to give me info about the rod clearance issue...
I HONESTLY...DON'T even REMEMBER what was said back then...
I don't have time to do a search right now but I WILL when I get a chance...you can bet on that...
(after typing what is below...I think it's starting to come back to me... perhap something about not wanting help from you because of you "being hard on people" here???) I need to search it out...later...
As I've said before...one of the MAIN reasons I come here is to learn more about these bikes as other people try new things that I can't because I don't have (can't afford...YET) one of these bikes that I love so much to experiment with...
Truth is...they (ALL Sportbikes ) KILL my back after SHORT periods of time so...the chance of me having one for a "StreetBike" are slim...unless I some how come accross the means (working doesn't seem to be good enough to me) to afford a third or even forth bike (SWFT) to want to build a ZX12 Street Bike...
I DO however want VERY MUCH...to buy a motor when I can afford it (MAYBE next year) and built a DragRace only chassis around it...THAT at this point in time would be my dream DragBike
NOW...
Wish I could afford to meet your chalenge personaly ra (I'm a SERIOUS under-achiever when it comes to making good money)...because I have NO doubt that I can build one hell-of-a ZX12 motor/bike combonation
I'm NOT going to tell you that it would be with Muzzys parts either!!!
IF...I could afford to build a Supranaut-Bbusa or ra12r KILLER??? I would have pistons MADE FOR ME either by Tony at MTC or JE directly...I would NOT "buy off the shelf" parts for this purpose!!!
I've never been a..."this is what I could do" talker without FIRST...DOING IT so...I won't even go any further about this since I can't afford to do it
I am also the kind of person that would be the first person on here (unless you beat me to it) to admit to my defeat at the hands of the ra12r
I can assure everyone that if you beat me (on my bike that does not exist)...they would be TWO of the baddest motor only 12Rs out there!!!
That being said... /)
What times have you turned on your ZX12? I don't recall seeing you post them???
I've been dying to ride the 1361 that I built at the track but...neither the owner OR I have had the time off from work to do so...
I did NOT build that motor for him to be "the baddest thing around" though...I built it to be lots n LOTS of fun for a long period of time...Street RIDDING...not Street Racing...
He has NOT had ANY motor only bikes around here...even come close to him though
Crap...I need to check my lotto #s now LOL...
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posted April 20, 2003 03:59 PM
Damn all I did was ask a simple question and peoples panties are all in twist...
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posted April 20, 2003 04:45 PM
I'm not in a twist...and I'm soory your thread got so far off base...
STILL wish ra would post some NUMBERS though instead of...no-one (here) can do what he does...kinda replies...
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posted April 20, 2003 08:21 PM
Not ur panties Kevin..
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posted April 22, 2003 07:49 AM
zxlnt,,,,,my cams are set at 108/103. I don't post numbers cause i don't see the point if i am not sure if they are optimal.
Kevin and Zhooligan, I have NEVER EVER said that no one can do what I can do, because honestly i followed the example of others and have previously very clearly stated that. My panties zxlnt, sorry you interpreted that i have the issues, cause i don't really care what folks do with "their" personal property. Information,,,,,,,,,,,take what you can use and the rest spit out the bones!!! I just try to clearify what is bones and what is true useful information. If I had the exact cam numbers i would state it that way. I don't, but i do know what i have tried that are not exact for the money. The work and parts required to change your cam's "ONE DEGREE" is NOOOOOTTTTTT worth the money for the change from stock! But, that is my conclusion.
Kevin about the challenge, hopefully you hit the numbers the other day, so you too can get what you want to ride! smile
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posted April 22, 2003 08:01 PM
Thank's ra...
I'm pretty sure I'll have a ZRX pretty SOOON...
MUCH slower than the ZX12 but also much MUCH more comfy...for me on the street...
I'll just continue to ride OTHER peoples 12s
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posted April 22, 2003 08:56 PM
Frnkly Kevin from what I have seen there are some pretty sweet and nasty ZRX's out there. And I could see myself having some fun on one as well!
Hey ra12 how about we bury our differences call things cool. I come here to share ideas, BS, talk with friends and about common interests. I don't where or what you do for a living, but in my case the people I work with think I need to frow up and plant flowers and play golf. Thats not likely to happen! I am shitty at golf and have always lived by Mark Twains words; "a perfectly good way to screw up a nice walk". And I certainly don't claim to be a mechanical expert. I am a guy who has been known to try things, and experiment. I share what I know and listen to what others have found out. I also have enough experience and knowledge to know that there is enough differences and variables that what works in one circumstance doesn't always work in another. And often times the info given here gets people close so they can fine tune for themselves. So anyway if I have done something unknowingly to flame you I apologize. Other then that lets talk about motorcycles and politics.
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posted April 23, 2003 06:40 AM
Zhooligan,,,,,frankly I like you the way you were!!! Don't get all soft and mushy on ME........!!!!!!!!
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posted April 23, 2003 07:44 AM
F#$% you!
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posted April 23, 2003 01:04 PM
My buddy DEAN has his ZRX in the 8s at over 162mph so...yes they CAN haul the ass
I just like the riding position a LOT more than the "SportBikes"...they...KILL my back, neck, arms,yada,ydad...
I just ordered a JMC swingarm for a ZRX1100 so...I guess I need to BUY A BIKE now?!?!?! LOL
HMMMmmm maybe I'll order a TURBO before I get the bike also
Wasn't this some kind of Cam Timming thread er sumpthen???
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posted April 23, 2003 01:08 PM
One of the little things that I find interesting the ZRX is the giant storage space under the seat!
Maybe it's time to order your cams!
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posted April 23, 2003 03:54 PM
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My buddy DEAN has his ZRX in the 8s at over 162mph so...yes they CAN haul the ass
I just like the riding position a LOT more than the "SportBikes"...they...KILL my back, neck, arms,yada,ydad...
I just ordered a JMC swingarm for a ZRX1100 so...I guess I need to BUY A BIKE now?!?!?! LOL
HMMMmmm maybe I'll order a TURBO before I get the bike also
Wasn't this some kind of Cam Timming thread er sumpthen???
It WAS.......
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posted April 23, 2003 05:24 PM
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It WAS.......
I'm gonna put Dean on the hunt (EBay) for my parts He's the Fookin KING of EBay parts findin!!!
He got a 6-speed Tranny and Carrillo Rods for PEANUTS (and a few bucks) on there!!!
ZX11 CAMS (ALMOST thread related ) give the ZRX (I had one on the dyno before and after) THIRTEEN HP!!!
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