causey
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posted March 15, 2012 09:22 PM
my 2000 12 is slow need help
Guys I no the 12 is a good bike but my friends on 05 and 06 gsxr 1000 r killing me. What's up? Everybodys bike is about the same streach 8in but they r killing me. What can I do to go faster without rebuilding the motor.
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shiphteey
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posted March 16, 2012 04:00 AM
What have you done to compensate for the inherent 100 lb advantage the gsxr has?
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zx12mark
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posted March 16, 2012 08:12 AM
they don`t beat me.turn that throttle faster and longer and i don`t use none of that sissy stretch stuff
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biggmoinc
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posted March 16, 2012 10:02 AM
A roll on with a bike that has the same or close to the same hp that's also 100 pounds less than u n ur 12 will get busted up everytime, sorry, power to weight wins hands down n a roll on contest
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biggmoinc
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posted March 16, 2012 10:03 AM
N the 05/06 1000's r fast!!!
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shiphteey
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posted March 16, 2012 12:49 PM
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they don`t beat me.turn that throttle faster and longer and i don`t use none of that sissy stretch stuff
Mark, make sure you remind this guy you're a very light guy, like I am. You know and I know if I were to jump on a similarly modded 05 1000 to you on your 12R I'd roll out on you and you'd only have a chance to reel me in deeep in the run....deeper than what most people even take it to on the streets. Our weight helps tremendously in roll-ons compared to the "average" American male...let alone a bigger guy.
With the typical bolts I raced against a friend's 05 1000. Going heads up with my 130 lb ass against him at 210 lb guy....it was NEVER close. Yes on paper we were "close" in total weight and about the same HP....but I'd stomp him silly every time.
You probably need to spend some time and work on your setup as well as practice a lot.
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biggmoinc
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posted March 16, 2012 02:57 PM
@130 i'm sure my 9.75 would go to an 9.3x lol, put you on a 05 1000 and a guy ur same size on a 12 and i bet that 1000 is in front, my boy has an 05 1000 and went 9.17 @ 150, and that was 1 .52 60', if i pulled the same 60' my best run would be 9.4x, power to weight, power to weight, lol, and yes i'm a lil jealous, can i be 130 for 1 track day.....please...lol
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supra5677
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posted March 17, 2012 07:52 AM
lets start with gearing how are you geared?
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causey
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posted March 17, 2012 09:27 PM
Well my weight is 245 plus the bike there weight is 150 plus bike and yes the 1000 is really fast but I was hoping to b able to keep up
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causey
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posted March 17, 2012 09:29 PM
Thanks for u guys writing back
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shiphteey
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posted March 18, 2012 04:27 AM
 Edited By: shiphteey on 18 Mar 2012 12:30
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Well my weight is 245 plus the bike there weight is 150 plus bike and yes the 1000 is really fast but I was hoping to b able to keep up
So although there are natural differences with the big bikes vs liters in general....
What you're telling me is in total you are giving about
200 lbs
While presumably retaining roughly the same HP....
And want to know why you can't keep up?
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biggmoinc
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posted March 18, 2012 07:41 AM
Edited By: biggmoinc on 18 Mar 2012 15:42
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quote:
Well my weight is 245 plus the bike there weight is 150 plus bike and yes the 1000 is really fast but I was hoping to b able to keep up
So although there are natural differences with the big bikes vs liters in general....
What you're telling me is in total you are giving about
200 lbs
While presumably retaining roughly the same HP....
And want to know why you can't keep up?
A.
Pretty much, like I said power to weight is only a bad thing when ur the heavier of the 2
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supra5677
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posted March 18, 2012 07:10 PM
dude. you need a 1427 stroker and bore kit. you need 225 to the back wheel...
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shiphteey
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posted March 19, 2012 08:56 AM
Yea, go with what Supra said, so you can't spend the most for the least amount of reliability.
Drop some weight off you and the bike and/or invest in a small nitrous shot.
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biggmoinc
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posted March 19, 2012 09:54 AM
Real discretely get a head and cam package n you'll b fine, everyday rider and sum balls, lose a lil weight would help too, lol, I feel ur pain though, I mean I really feel ur pain, lol
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causey
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posted March 19, 2012 04:58 PM
Yall crazy but the laughter is fun well tell what to do cause the 12 is bad azz and want to kick their azz
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causey
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posted March 19, 2012 05:01 PM
Where can I find a head and cam package or the 1427 kit I would like natural power no bottle my a turbo
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shiphteey
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posted March 20, 2012 09:57 AM
http://www.aceperformanceracing.com/
You don't need "1427" ... you don't have to go that big. You just need some more HP.
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biggmoinc
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posted March 20, 2012 10:11 AM
Sal or jim, from my understanding they'll have u in the higher hp you need
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supra5677
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posted March 20, 2012 07:10 PM
Homeboy is 245 pounds. He need at least a 1287 kit with some cams.
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biggmoinc
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posted March 21, 2012 04:13 AM
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Homeboy is 245 pounds. He need at least a 1287 kit with some cams.
I agree, I think I was giving myself advice (head n cam) I already have 1270, but I bought a pickup truck
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Paul2281
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posted March 22, 2012 12:26 PM
I did the ace 1287 thing and didn`t gain a whole lot in the 1/4 mile with a lighter than average 02 zx12....head,cams, ECU work,and 1287, with his real world tuning system...Maybe they go faster in a mile run....Stock motor 9.45@145 after 9.25@149... I weigh 187lbs. JMO....
Got a date to put it on the dyno and see what this motor has for hp.....
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causey
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posted March 22, 2012 01:43 PM
Well let me no I would like get something for it but just don't wear to go for parts.r there a web site for cams rods crank
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biggmoinc
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posted March 22, 2012 04:47 PM
Doing just a 1270/87 kit will only give round 10hp or so, if u do do the kit do the head n cams to reap bigger benefits, or do like i'm trying n sell the 12 to get a 14, Lol, just put a SS head in a 14 you'll b flying
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KZScott
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posted March 22, 2012 06:25 PM
best NA mph i got in the 1/4 with a stock motor was 148
best NA mph i got in the 1/4 with a 1287 i built was 155.x (close to 156) I did the head, and degreed the stock cams. and as always pump gas
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