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posted December 25, 2010 08:53 AM        Edited By: IMFASTTOO on 25 Dec 2010 16:54
YEP my HARLEY buddies have been buying SS engines and hot rodding them in an attempt to out perform the sport bikes and our ROCKETS those guys are spending big bucks $15000 and more and they still cant even keep up WHATS THE POINT ?
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posted December 25, 2010 05:48 PM        
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Lemme think now...



Yeah, I'm still waiting. I said head. Not give me head, FBA, funny boy around. Lets move to old head:

OLD: 1 big fat valve. 1 big fat stem. 1 big port to slow the air from port, around stem, over large table, etc.
OLD: 2 shallow. 2 heavy. 2 slow. 2 nails short of a full box are you, funnyboy.

NEW: 2 little tables. 2 thin stems the size of one, practically. 2 ports with faster velocities.
NEW: 1 long stem for a steep angle no longer shallow and wide. 1 way to size down the head is go steep and pull it in. 1 light push arm over valve stem. 1 way to cut down weight is remove bucket and extend arm over the push and if slowsushi, keywhackeysaki, honday how they do it yawn me heeee hawwww....... HEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAA!

SLAP: Dayapan knees silly with day glockanscpeel deer fritter.
SLAP: A cardboard box over those is cc riders and on the boat is ship day shit out. Everyone on a Harley! Yip Pee I owe china doll some chump change so sockey 2 me... Join HOG = Hold On Geeeeeeeeeeeeee HAaaaaaaaaaa!

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posted December 26, 2010 10:59 AM        
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YEP my HARLEY buddies have been buying SS engines and hot rodding them in an attempt to out perform the sport bikes and our ROCKETS those guys are spending big bucks $15000 and more and they still cant even keep up WHATS THE POINT ?


i pulled up to a harley at a red light and it took me 122 miles to get the slow of my bike
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posted December 26, 2010 04:50 PM        
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quote:
Lemme think now...



Yeah, I'm still waiting. I said head. Not give me head, FBA, funny boy around. Lets move to old head:

OLD: 1 big fat valve. 1 big fat stem. 1 big port to slow the air from port, around stem, over large table, etc.
OLD: 2 shallow. 2 heavy. 2 slow. 2 nails short of a full box are you, funnyboy.

NEW: 2 little tables. 2 thin stems the size of one, practically. 2 ports with faster velocities.
NEW: 1 long stem for a steep angle no longer shallow and wide. 1 way to size down the head is go steep and pull it in. 1 light push arm over valve stem. 1 way to cut down weight is remove bucket and extend arm over the push and if slowsushi, keywhackeysaki, honday how they do it yawn me heeee hawwww....... HEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAA!

SLAP: Dayapan knees silly with day glockanscpeel deer fritter.
SLAP: A cardboard box over those is cc riders and on the boat is ship day shit out. Everyone on a Harley! Yip Pee I owe china doll some chump change so sockey 2 me... Join HOG = Hold On Geeeeeeeeeeeeee HAaaaaaaaaaa!

Congratulations moron - you just became the 3rd moron to make my ignore list...big benefit is now that I don't have to sift through pages of drug enhanced, mindless, brain fried spew anymore. My world will be a better place now.
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posted December 26, 2010 05:19 PM        
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quote:
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Lemme think now...



Yeah, I'm still waiting. I said head. Not give me head, FBA, funny boy around. Lets move to old head:

OLD: 1 big fat valve. 1 big fat stem. 1 big port to slow the air from port, around stem, over large table, etc.
OLD: 2 shallow. 2 heavy. 2 slow. 2 nails short of a full box are you, funnyboy.

NEW: 2 little tables. 2 thin stems the size of one, practically. 2 ports with faster velocities.
NEW: 1 long stem for a steep angle no longer shallow and wide. 1 way to size down the head is go steep and pull it in. 1 light push arm over valve stem. 1 way to cut down weight is remove bucket and extend arm over the push and if slowsushi, keywhackeysaki, honday how they do it yawn me heeee hawwww....... HEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAA!

SLAP: Dayapan knees silly with day glockanscpeel deer fritter.
SLAP: A cardboard box over those is cc riders and on the boat is ship day shit out. Everyone on a Harley! Yip Pee I owe china doll some chump change so sockey 2 me... Join HOG = Hold On Geeeeeeeeeeeeee HAaaaaaaaaaa!

Congratulations moron - you just became the 3rd moron to make my ignore list...big benefit is now that I don't have to sift through pages of drug enhanced, mindless, brain fried spew anymore. My world will be a better place now.

Hahahaha! brain fried spew!
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watthecu


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posted December 26, 2010 10:28 PM        
How could gear fill tear fish be all taking his ball home an shit?
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zixxer14


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posted December 28, 2010 02:32 PM        
Yeah, about time for an update fish boy!
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FastestBusaAround


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posted December 28, 2010 02:46 PM        
I heard that they are scrapping the bikes...you'll be able to buy them by the pound as scrap metal shortly. What was once 15K or more will now be sold for a few bucks...but you have to pay shipping from the scrapyard...
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MJ


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posted December 29, 2010 04:26 AM        
I read what sounded like credible info on the 10 forum that the new 10 is going to be re-released next fall as a 2012 model? I wonder what they are having to do to those engines? The post said they had metallurgy and design issues with the piston and ring setup. Sounds like somebody blew it bigtime in the design department lol
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posted December 29, 2010 05:16 AM        
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OH come on, FBA, just messing with ya. Look, if we can grid a map to run rich enough to foul plugs, are we not rich if we can map the grid? RPM times TPS is that not x to y in a manor of speaking we just jetted any computer bike with a piggy box like a PC or Motty?

So if the carb never changed, the crank never change, the rods and pistons never change that much say. Where do you get HP every year? Isn't it the head? Steeper steamers you be stepping in more shit you fart'inn on a hog? I'm a hog member....

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee HOGggggggggggggggggggggggggggg! Heeeeeeeeeee Hawwwwwwwww! fucking cow me new year to you too, fella!


this guy is either so damn smart I can't understand what he's saying, or he learned English from a billy goat. Regardless, I wish he'd shut up.

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posted December 29, 2010 10:22 AM        
That's the resident idiot...
I put him on ignore...now I no longer see his posts...or have to be subjected to his spew. He's permanently invisible to me!
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posted December 29, 2010 12:59 PM        
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I heard that they are scrapping the bikes...you'll be able to buy them by the pound as scrap metal shortly. What was once 15K or more will now be sold for a few bucks...but you have to pay shipping from the scrapyard...


damn! if someone was smart they'd have kept one of these junk ZX-10s, will be worth a collector's mint soon enough
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posted December 29, 2010 02:03 PM        
I doubt it...they're not Ford GT's, A/C Cobras or Hemi 'Cuda's. They're just fucked up pieces of scrap metal...now sold by the pound.
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SteveWFL


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posted December 29, 2010 02:27 PM        
i dunno i saw some serious "crap" at the barber museum now worth a mint!
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posted December 29, 2010 06:13 PM        Edited By: watthecu on 30 Dec 2010 02:14
Edge, Do I hear one sniveling? How about I spend and hour with you. Bet I find you annoying in about 10 minutes. Relax. Use the toilet handle to remove shit you be wiping your eyes or your ass. Makes no difference in my world. FBA used his iggy button. YOu do know what FBA stands for, right?

Fart'inn Behind Attaboy if say he does not have the fastest around and someone is in front say. You smell comment you make one, now the 'resident idiot' makes comment I fart in your general direction.

And if I don't do this every once inn awhile say, I get a PM to stir up some shit... Kick me, I'm the sack of balls is the meter. StickITOOYa Meter Reader. I'll complete you... Just don't look for a sentence is all.

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posted December 29, 2010 06:33 PM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 30 Dec 2010 02:34
http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/29/zx-10r-s-problems-solved



fish your late





The "sales hold" on the ZX-10R will be lifted at the end of January with sales to resume as normal, Kawasaki announced today in a press release.

According to Kawasaki engineers, the problem with the ZX-10R arose when they found a "possible surging of the intake valve spring when the unit is operated under unique riding conditions, such as on a racetrack. The surge could cause the intake valve to seat improperly, resulting in poor engine performance."

Kawasaki is replacing the camshaft, valve springs, and spring retainers to prevent the valve surging - and none of the changes affect engine performance, Kawasaki says.

On December 11, Kawasaki issued a release stating that a "technical hold" was being placed on the bike, but gave no details as to what the problem was. At that point, unsold units were sent back to KMC warehouses and those who had already taken delivery of the new bike were told to return them to dealerships for a full refund.


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posted December 30, 2010 05:04 AM        
I forsee some spare 10s at the end of the year. maybe. don't you think this will hurt sales dramatically?
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posted December 30, 2010 06:24 AM        Edited By: SteveWFL on 30 Dec 2010 14:24
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I forsee some spare 10s at the end of the year. maybe. don't you think this will hurt sales dramatically?


well, those on the fence for a ZX10 or BMW/Aprilia (15K version) will probabably not buy the Kawi now

but i hope they sell well
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posted December 30, 2010 08:16 AM        
if they'd have issued HONDA gear with every ZX10 sold, that bike would've held up flawlessly just like my Kawi has for over 26,000 miles in 10 months




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posted December 30, 2010 02:42 PM        
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http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/29/zx-10r-s-problems-solved



fish your late





The "sales hold" on the ZX-10R will be lifted at the end of January with sales to resume as normal, Kawasaki announced today in a press release.

According to Kawasaki engineers, the problem with the ZX-10R arose when they found a "possible surging of the intake valve spring when the unit is operated under unique riding conditions, such as on a racetrack. The surge could cause the intake valve to seat improperly, resulting in poor engine performance."

Kawasaki is replacing the camshaft, valve springs, and spring retainers to prevent the valve surging - and none of the changes affect engine performance, Kawasaki says.

On December 11, Kawasaki issued a release stating that a "technical hold" was being placed on the bike, but gave no details as to what the problem was. At that point, unsold units were sent back to KMC warehouses and those who had already taken delivery of the new bike were told to return them to dealerships for a full refund.






Shit! now I want one again .
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posted December 31, 2010 04:47 AM        
I posted this on the other 10R hold thread without realising that this one was the one actually being used and updated….

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Good Morning All,

I was at the dealership yesterday and asked about purchasing a 10R… They had them on the floor and basically said what colour, when I asked about the "technical hold" and the recall they informed me that yes there were a few units recalled (20 or so in the US) but Nil in Canada.

Have we heard anything else on this on the "net", or is the bike good to go…. Note I sat on it again and compared it to the BMW sitting a few feet away and while I do think it will require heli risers to make it a little more long range ridable for me, it is one hell of a nice looking machine.
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I am really interested in what the straight dope is here, I don’t know if the dealership is blowing smoke or if this really was a non issue that only affected a few bikes.

If I buy one of the floor am I going to end up getting a recall notice just as riding season starts and lose my bike for a few weeks of my already to short riding season?

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posted December 31, 2010 06:24 AM        
Buy it, ride the hell out of it & let us know if it blows up!
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posted December 31, 2010 07:16 AM        
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http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/29/zx-10r-s-problems-solved



fish your late





The "sales hold" on the ZX-10R will be lifted at the end of January with sales to resume as normal, Kawasaki announced today in a press release.

According to Kawasaki engineers, the problem with the ZX-10R arose when they found a "possible surging of the intake valve spring when the unit is operated under unique riding conditions, such as on a racetrack. The surge could cause the intake valve to seat improperly, resulting in poor engine performance."

Kawasaki is replacing the camshaft, valve springs, and spring retainers to prevent the valve surging - and none of the changes affect engine performance, Kawasaki says.

On December 11, Kawasaki issued a release stating that a "technical hold" was being placed on the bike, but gave no details as to what the problem was. At that point, unsold units were sent back to KMC warehouses and those who had already taken delivery of the new bike were told to return them to dealerships for a full refund.





fuck the 10R and it's broken thai valve springs - I'm on vacation. Dont bother me
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posted December 31, 2010 07:25 AM        
"possible surging of the intake valve spring" that sounds more like floating the valves or not strong enough spring pressure? I don't know how this would cause the valve to seat improperly? Well maybe if it beat on it hard enough. I would think the real danger would be dropping a valves? Or the piston hitting the bottom of the valves and bending it ? that would definitely cause a in proper match LOL. They said they were replacing a lot of stuff in the valve train with no horsepower loss? Was that from the restricted 185 hp or the 207 hp? it would be easy to put smaller everything back in the motor and have 185 hp unrestricted? I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the new and improved version can still make the big number.
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posted December 31, 2010 08:25 AM        
I wonder how you can trust a fix that they came up with in a month when the engine they developed for four years doesn't work after four years of testing
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