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posted January 13, 2003 07:39 AM
The rear spring is rather soft on the 12 Rick, my preload is set at the maximun level, yours should be too.
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Ninjaman12R
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posted January 13, 2003 07:48 AM
Yeah...
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The rear spring is rather soft on the 12 Rick, my preload is set at the maximun level, yours should be too.
Yeah I've got it cranked up as of now, but am going to take the "edge" off a bit once I get the bike in "attack" mode. I'm setting it up similar to Lucky's bike, I really liked the way his bike turned in when I rode it on the Cherohala last year. I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted January 13, 2003 12:30 PM
man maybe I can get one of you techies to give me a hand with my bike at DG... I have basically a stock out of the box set up, I dont mess with it, a buddy played with teh preload soe butthat was it
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Ninjaman12R
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posted January 13, 2003 01:57 PM
Yeah.....
I don't mind helping you out. I'll have plenty o' tools with me, as will some of the other guys. If you're still at stock settings you're missing out.
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posted January 13, 2003 04:12 PM
Rick, do you still have the OEM shock on Lil' Red? If you haven't had them rebuild it, have you thought about recharging that shock? If you haven't done anything with it, I'd bet you one of those "special" $20 blows from Bart (he'll actually swallow) that you won't have more then 80 psi of nitrogen. A little over half of the 142 psi spec.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted January 14, 2003 02:39 AM
dam Red now ya got me thinking about mine?? and its not a year old yet.....but its at 12000 miles....guess I will have the dealer check it
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Ninjaman12R
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posted January 14, 2003 04:59 AM
Excellent Point Red........
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Rick, do you still have the OEM shock on Lil' Red? If you haven't had them rebuild it, have you thought about recharging that shock? If you haven't done anything with it, I'd bet you one of those "special" $20 blows from Bart (he'll actually swallow) that you won't have more then 80 psi of nitrogen. A little over half of the 142 psi spec.
Sherm,
I bet you are right on that one. Who did you get to recharge yours????? I don't know anywhere locally where I can get it recharged. Did your dealership do yours???? Cost????? Let me know the deal, and BTW Bart is running a New Year "Special" on his "services". $10 per "session". 
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posted January 14, 2003 12:04 PM
You all mean that Bart is only paying $10 to each customer? I think he should pay more than that.....I think you all are cheap.....your cheap hussies....dam sluts...ho's......
So what I gather from your posts, you are calling Bart the cum guzzling, take in the rump, blow job beggar from hell? is that right? And that he is paying you all money to swallow your swords? dammmmmmm
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posted January 14, 2003 05:26 PM
I wanna go
The foothills pkwy is awesome
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posted January 14, 2003 07:04 PM
 Edited By: redelk on 14 Jan 2003 19:06
ANY place that works on or sell motocross bikes would be able to do it. Those MX guys are always screwin' around with their shock pressure. Most dealers have a big nitrogen tank stashed away somewhere in their shop. KMC say their sportbike shocks CAN NOT be recharged. Nothing could be further from the truth and I can't understand why more dealers don't offer the service. They do for the MX guys and whack them for anything from $15 to $35!
The thing is, most shocks (including the 6R, 7R and 9R) have what's called a "Schrader" valve (looks like a tire valve stem) on the nitrogen bladder. The 12R doesn't and requires a needle like some old Yamaha and Fox shocks. If I was rebuilding or revalving my shock, I'd replace it with a bladder that had a Schrader valve on it.
If you can't find a place that has a needle, have them order one for you. The needle comes from Motion Pro. Almost all of the shops use the charging set up from Motion Pro and their needle screws right in. Odds are it would screw into any Schrader valve set up. My dealer had to buy one so they could charge my shock. The needle costs about $30.
NITROGEN NEEDLE KIT
Nitrogen needle is used to fill shocks with self-sealing rubber valves. Can be used in conjunction with the Motion Pro Nitrogen Shock Gauge.
08-0075 Nitrogen Needle Kit
08-0B75 Replacement Needle
As for getting the metal cap off, I drilled about a 5/8" hole in the center of the cap and used a screwdriver through the hole to pry it out. Just happen to have a round plastic end cap that plugged the hole afterwards. Now, I could just pop plastic cap off withouth having to remove the metal cap.
If you screw up the cap while getting it off, running the bike without the cap is NO BIG DEAL! Road dirt, grit and so on will have no effect on the shock's needle valve. The thing is that you can't just order the cap by itself, from KMC. At least not for the 12R and the 7R (and probably all the others).
When I recharged the shock on my 7R, I ran it for 40K+ miles without a cap and the 7R has a Schrader valve! I just used a regular tire valve cap on it and rode the crap out of it.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted January 14, 2003 09:00 PM
thanks for the info there Pastor, might have to have that checked out......Gonna see what we can do with getting it set up if it doesnt work then I will take further actions...like i said its not bad the way it is....just looking for the bigger better faster deal ya know....
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Ninjaman12R
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posted January 15, 2003 05:17 AM
Thanks redelk......
Excellent information redelk. When Lil' Red goes into "surgery" I may just have to look into this a little deeper. I've definitely got to do the clutch,clutch cover,winglet,tires, and suspension tweaks. I am also going to remap the bike. Right now I'm really looking forward to scuffing those M-1s in, they are a great looking tire. But with the way the weather is that won't be happening anytime soon. 
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posted January 15, 2003 07:33 AM
Good Luck Lil Red,
You are about to be worked on by Dr. Fuckingstien.
G-d Speed Lil.
Bart
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posted January 15, 2003 09:47 AM
You know better BIATCH.......
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Good Luck Lil Red,
You are about to be worked on by Dr. Fuckingstien.
G-d Speed Lil.
Bart
Bart you know that I am the only person who has ever taken a wrench to Lil' Red. I don't trust any of these "Jacklegged" mechanics we have in the area. All mods, and recall work, have been done by me. I can't take credit for the forks though, Kent and Tracy @ GMD in Atlanta did a custom revalve, heavier springs, circuit one compression pistons, etc. If I'd had all the necessary tools to do the forks they'd have never left my garage.
I've always done my own work, and have worked on most of my friends bikes. I did the carbs on Mike's FZ1 last year. I hated working on that thing!!!! Hell if you lived close you'd get free work done too, I love working on bikes.
Summary - Don't worry about Lil' Red, she's in good hands.
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posted January 15, 2003 11:27 AM
speaking of DG, that is what this post is about right? I was strolling through a few websites and found this site:
http://www.tailofthedragon.com/slayers/2001/9_02_01.html
i hope I did that right....pic of me and Craig up there in 2001 on our first ride over the gap
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posted January 15, 2003 11:33 AM
oh wait here is one for you all...... guess who is in these pics:
http://www.tailofthedragon.com/slayers/2001/5_13_01.html
just happened across this pic too.....
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posted January 17, 2003 09:03 AM
found these posted on the dragon website, thought the one of some of the guys is from one of hte first DG runs, the other is my first time at the gap with my buddy craig.....
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posted January 17, 2003 04:18 PM
Notice who's LEADING the pack 'o posers in the second pic link?
Sherman aka Pastor Elk
Mark aka Lucky12 (also aka "Grazer" by the Pastor)
Harry aka Florida's best... well, you know.
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posted January 17, 2003 07:56 PM
i do see who is leading the pack, but the pack is sitting still....
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posted January 19, 2003 04:48 PM
quote by DeadElk -Notice who's LEADING the pack 'o posers in the second pic link?
Sherman aka Pastor Elk
Mark aka Lucky12 (also aka "Grazer" by the Pastor)
Harry aka Florida's best... well, you know.
Bitch PLEASE.... Mark and I had already eat our sandwitches,drank some water and were getting sleepy waiting on your ass at the store at the COT! Your the only sport bike rider I know that almost got run over by a minivan going through the gap cause you wouldn't move over and let him pass!
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posted January 20, 2003 09:22 AM
Gotta sell the 12 - but I'd like to hang out anyway
Gentlemen:
(whoa, what the fuck was I thinking!)
General assembly of rump rangers:
I am probably going to have to sell my 12. Seems I can't control myself on it (couple of tickets and wreckless driving later...). But, I also have a Zook 600. If I can get out of my tickets by selling my 12 I think I should do it.
Would I be realtively welcome riding a half pint zook? Would I have to battle Elk and Bart for Official Boot Licker and Weiner Eater status?
Never mind the fact that I could probably put the smack down on most of you fuckers on a half pint, much less the 12....
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posted January 20, 2003 09:34 AM
Bart how many people from here are going this year? Man tits? thats classic I have to use that. Ass bottle opener, don't want to drink the contents of that bottle. I don't have a pain in the ass woman any more, kinda miss her. So I think I'm going to take a break from man whoring and go this year.
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Otis
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posted January 20, 2003 10:51 AM
Jon, of course you can come and ride with us on a 600! Slug rides a 600. Doesn't matter a bit, you'll have a blast guaranteed.
Bigju, as far as I know who are for wsure coming is
Otis
Ninjaman
Bart
Harry
Brian
Rob
Redelk (I think so)
HDL (if he is on the country)
And of course the locals will hook up with us too
Lucky(Mark)
Oldkawboy and maybe his two sons.
I'm sure others may be thinking about it but no confirmation that I've heard of yet.
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posted January 21, 2003 03:38 PM
Not Sure Total Numbers
Bigju,
I'm not sure it would seem that the May trip should have a good turn out...
I wouldn't worry about numbers you will have plenty of prople to ride with at differnet riding levels.
Bart
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posted January 21, 2003 04:53 PM
I'm talkin' with JW right now and trying to figure out when he'll be going, since he's fom Little Rock. Odds are, if he ain't going as early as I am, we'll both end up at the Best Western. Nine days and eight nights is $415.
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