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posted December 06, 2002 10:55 AM
Muzzy Stacks
Muzzy is now selling Stacks for the 12... very nice looking!!,,
HHHMMMM... wonder where they get the idea from...
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posted December 06, 2002 11:27 AM
Hummmm...me too 
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posted December 06, 2002 04:05 PM
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posted December 07, 2002 11:53 AM
I did a little research, and found that they are schintz designed and a better product then the over seas ones.
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posted December 07, 2002 12:07 PM
What makes them better?
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posted December 07, 2002 12:31 PM
I'd be interested in doing a comparison in the 2003 season at Maxton, back to back runs stock vs. bear stacks vs. muzzys.
Results and testing conditions vary greatly, examples: I've set a record of 202.593 MPH on motor using bear stacks in the mile, but I've also been 204.722 without them however that was using nitrous and the stock stacks, but not at the same time nor in the same conditions and I had made other changes so those comparisons didn't count. I also went 192.5 on stock motor without stacks yet during a different meet only managed 191 with them, so to get an actual valid comparison tests need to be conducted back to back on the same day on the same bike in the same weather conditions.
Unfortunately last year I was so busy with mechanical issues and trying to change classes with limited time at Maxton that I was unable to do back to back comparison simply because of lack of time.
Next year I will have plenty of time to do such a comparison test, in fact I plan to dedicate and entire weekend at Maxton doing comparison tests such as this, including stock vs. hans intake that a zx12rzone member is going to loan to me for testing.
If Muzzys wants to donate a set of stacks for this comparison, I'll glady do a write-up on the website with results. I already have a set of stacks supplied by Bear, which I fully endorse.
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posted December 07, 2002 04:58 PM
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What makes them better?
good question GG...what makes them better Ballisticzx12r ?
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posted December 07, 2002 05:21 PM
Would it be of any benefit to run 2 of the low speed and 2 of the hi speed stacks, much like a Hilborn injected small block chevy?
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posted December 07, 2002 05:26 PM
Thats a good question Ozzy. I know that on the Honda Blackbird they did something like that! Sounds like a test for someone to try.
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posted December 07, 2002 05:31 PM
Hmm...hmm...
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posted December 07, 2002 08:08 PM
They definitely look like a good quality component. And Muzzy is in an unusual place on this. Instead of being first out of the chute with a ZX12 product they have had a chance to see some of the pit falls Bear has experienced. So I would expect they will come with the bolts, O-rings etc. ButI can also say that Bear and with some assistance from Vincent that they made things right for the guys that had early o-ring problems.
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posted December 07, 2002 08:27 PM
I have a quick question - if I go for the Muzzy part, which version should I get? I have a 2000 green '12 with the following mods:
Muzzy full Ti pipe
PC-IIIr w/GREAT map (thanks Doug!!)
No Kleen air (mod from fishantlers)
K&N Filters
So which stack version should I get (I'm not planning on Nitros just yet  )?
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posted December 07, 2002 08:32 PM
That leaves the stock or modified version for you DeathPulse.
But I'd like to know...What makes them better?
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posted December 07, 2002 08:48 PM
A question for Doug..... the stacks on a 1361 will enhance performance where? low end, mid or top? And do you have any thoughts on Ozzy's question?
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posted December 07, 2002 09:35 PM
Since the silver 1347 is going to Muzzy's next week in any case, I'll see about having them put a set of stacks on while it's there!
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posted December 07, 2002 09:39 PM
I will probably do the same. Thought I'd wait for Dougs response before buying. Thought of that just prior to selecting order on their site!
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posted December 07, 2002 11:40 PM
What the hell. Ordered a set to test out.
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posted December 08, 2002 07:12 AM
Z,, your a funny guy man!! I would have to lean for these will have better airflow stats... mod, motors require more air. I like the design also where the bolt goes in.
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posted December 08, 2002 08:35 AM
I ordered a set friday from muzzys , the blue one's.
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posted December 08, 2002 09:00 AM
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I ordered a set friday from muzzys , the blue one's.
can't wait to ride...watching for the first 60 degree or better day....so you have that great beautiful blue color
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posted December 08, 2002 10:58 AM
MadMike... I think they will fit and I do like the bolt setup. I have always worried about the seal on my bear stacks.
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posted December 08, 2002 05:10 PM
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I did a little research, and found that they are schintz designed and a better product then the over seas ones.
where ya get your research from?.... and how ws it better?
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