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KZScott


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posted November 10, 2009 12:50 PM        
headlights

if you had to get rid of the dual headlights for a smaller single headlight, what bike would have what you want? i kinda want to put something where the lights are
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posted November 11, 2009 09:33 AM        
i think i may have decided to go with one very small projector style light in place of the city light. ive been told R6 lights may be the ticket.
going to paint on a set of oem style lights, possibly as eyes like the following pics



the reason to get rid of the lights is to run 2 oem batteries up there as ballast weight, and give me the added benefit of 24v starting. i plan on needing it




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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted November 11, 2009 04:52 PM        
Scott, interesting idea. There will be drawbacks, make sure you get a good shock built.
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posted November 11, 2009 05:38 PM        
ill be taking the 12 pounds of steel/lead off of the forks with this. ill be adding that much weight back to the bike with the second battery(11 pounds) and brackets, but the middle of the bike will be lighter with an empty battery box. i get to loose a couple pounds from taking out the oem lights and going with a small one.
overall im hoping for a net loss of a few pounds, and have the weight situated much farther ahead than normal to help keep the front tire planted.
i will be getting the shock revalved and resprung to suit the WB.
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted November 12, 2009 10:48 AM        
KZScott

you need a headlight ?

or you want a headlight ?
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posted November 12, 2009 10:49 AM        
i need a very very small one
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posted November 13, 2009 05:03 PM        
do a small HID projector.. or a projector in general. alot of concentrated light in a small package. only drawback with HID is you'll need to put the ballast somewhere... more weight as well. not much, but i dunno if thats an attractive option.

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posted November 13, 2009 07:12 PM        
weight in the front end is a good thing, but im guessing the HID conversion would be a lot more $ than just a regular light. i may upgrade it later on tho. any recommendations on where to score a TINY one that would still have an ok low beam for night time drag racing?? (cheap is good )
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted November 14, 2009 06:54 PM        
i have a projector if you want it. take your pick. i have 2 BMW M3 (H7) projectors and one from some sorta mazda that would need modified. it's very nice tho. imho, better light dispersion than the BMW pieces.
i had an H7 HID kit but it blew up.

you want a projector, let me know.. i'll et pics if you want

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posted November 14, 2009 10:16 PM        
im interested, whats the diameter of the projector? a pic would be great
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted November 15, 2009 11:05 PM        
the M3 ones are maybe 5" or so? they're out of an entire headlight assembly for a 95 BMW M3.. the mazda piece is kinda odd. it's attached to a cast aluminum piece that is pretty big that housed porbaboy a 6" dia high bem reflector.. i can always plasma it off before shipping tho.

im gonna try to remember to get a pic of the M3 ones for you. .they're in one my toolboxs at the shop. if you want, maybe i can get my camera working and get some light-at-night shots so you can see mean divergence and compare the light profiles.. take the better one.
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posted November 15, 2009 11:36 PM        
ok.. heres the mazda one.. i fixed my pos camera just for ya.. lol













heres what your standard 35W ballast will look like. that is an H7 bulb.. however, a "TRUE" HID bulb is the little twistlock-style D2S bulb next to it.. you can see the differences.. the price is a major difference too. that D2s bulb is $120.
not sure about the H7.. you can get H7 kits from DDM tuning or f-sane

the lights i have on my bike ( that utilize the D2S bulbs) are about $1200 a piece if you wanna order them thru mercedes benz.. lol




heres the typical color of the HID when a "custom" color isn't called out... i think you'd be fine tho with a regular incandescent in there.. i'll throw you one as well.

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posted November 16, 2009 12:03 AM        
http://www.amazon.com/Hella-90mm-Headlight-Connectors-Adjusters/dp/B000CSWB4S/ref=pd_bxgy_auto_text_b
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posted November 16, 2009 09:29 AM        Edited By: KZScott on 16 Nov 2009 17:32
Jim, those lights are badass! is the project progressing any since you last posted about it?

are these lights low beam only? if so would i be able to put in one of my stock headlights to get high and low? I really only need low...
(and thx for the pics!)
how much would you want for the Mazda light?

thx for the link Tim, but i think they might be a little big?
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posted November 16, 2009 05:11 PM        
scott, you want it, its yours.

i had a bunch of shit here, but forgot to sign in and lost it all

that particular light is for low-beam only.. but some have a high beam solenoid. mine do. thing is, at least on the 7-R, the low beam and high beam circuits are inverted.. never on at the same time.. so i had to put a diode in. .i also ran uber wire to a relay because they flickered pretty hard core. thats VERY bad for the ballast and bulbs.'


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you can mix and match, depending on what your'e doing, but i'm willing to bet that if you did an H7 HID, you'll never even notice turning the high beam on. lol. they're that bright.

i do have the M3 light with me if you wanna see that, too. have 2 of those.. those will actually fit in your stock headlight housing.

ill get some pics and some light pattern shots for ya in a bit.






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posted November 16, 2009 05:14 PM        
oh.. sadly, no REAL progress on my bike. .had alot of problems lately with fueling.. the contacts inside the pump ( diaphragm pump) had welded together and sheared below the weld and the arc eroded the carbon.. they self destructed.. been acting up.. jsut couldn't place the root cause.. KNEW it was fuel tho.. but ya.. bitch left me stranded in a parkinglot yesterday.. 4 hours and half the toolbox from home later, i'm back on the road.. ran perfect today.. lets hope it stays that way!!

STILL looking for a T2, T3, or T25 turbo.. can't find one to save my life.

waiting on hearing about a job too.. maybe i can afford to start fabrication and assembly if i get some cash flow generated!
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posted November 18, 2009 08:09 PM        
if the M3 light is 5 in, its way too big, im just wanting 1 small one like the Mazda light to fit where the city light was. the rest should be filled by batteries, and other stuff. the LMA3 should fit perfectly on top of the ram air scoop, and seeing how its a pretty flat piece, i should be able to get G force
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted November 19, 2009 08:21 PM        
alrighty then. the mazda light is yours.

and a bulb.. if the HID kit i showed actually worked, i'd sell ya that.. somethings wrong with it tho.

worst case is i might needa bti for shipping, unless it's real cheap. then i can swing it.

shoot me somethin at whitehendrix1@live.com

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posted November 19, 2009 09:30 PM        
you have mail from s_u_fire
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted November 29, 2009 11:37 PM        
thank you very much for the offer of the free light Jim, but Im going in a new direction. (cheaper and easier usually win me over :P)

I took apart the stock head lightight assembly (baking in an oven at 200 for a few minutes works great) and i should be able to trim the plastic to fit the bulbs much farther forward. this is what i have for a battery box so far









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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted November 30, 2009 04:20 PM        
That ought to keep the front end planted!!
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posted November 30, 2009 04:50 PM        
i hope so. the lead/steel weight is coming off of the forks, so its like im adding 1 battery for ballast not 2. with the cut tank and other stuff im hoping to drop from mid to high 1.4s to low 1.4s and maybe a high 1.3 if im lucky
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted November 30, 2009 10:20 PM        
nice battery bracket!

i wonder a lil bit about adding weight above the center of gravity, even in the front.

It'll be interesting to see how much it helps.

good luck!
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KZScott


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posted November 30, 2009 10:30 PM        
thanks Karl, I hear its common on grudge bikes to put a battery up there so i decided to go for 2
this is also freeing up a location for the c-16 tank and fuel pump for my fogger kit. weight from the tail moved to the center of the bike
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted December 01, 2009 04:53 AM        
Great looking piece Scott. Will you still have the 'top' running light working?
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