beansbaxter
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posted November 05, 2002 01:01 PM
Muzzy clutch install??
Well, the Muzzy clutch kit arrives tomorrow, and I'm doing the labor myself (sigh) so I ask a few questions before hand....all help and advice is welcome and greatly appreciated.
What part of the clutch kit needs to be soaked in oil? For how long?
I've seen and read the how to that Spencer Cycles has posted. Is the impact gun really neccessary? Is it possible to overtighten, or not tighten enough?
I didnt order the Muzzy billet clutch basket, since I'm poor, but I read on another post that the stock one is made practically of "tin foil" so is it going to work ok with the Muzzy kit?
I was under the impression that since I'm not racing, that there is no need to spend the money on the Muzzy billet clutch basket. Is this true? Should I eventually order it?
I'll have an oil and oil filter change done afterwards.
Anything else I should know. Anything to worry about. I've never done one before.
What is the break in on the new Muzzy clutch? How many miles should I expect out of the Muzzy since I got 12000 miles out of the stock setup?
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posted November 05, 2002 01:06 PM
1. Clutch fibers need to be soaked in oil.
2. Dunno...havent tried it yet...also doing it tomorrow
3. Yes...the hub will work with the stock basket
4. Depends on how hard you beat on the clutch...id say its a good mod either way after seeing the stock basket.
Break in? heh...back it out the driveway 
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RAC4IT
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posted November 05, 2002 02:47 PM
Yea "What he said" plus.. impact will make it easy to remove the nut, retighten with a torque wrench to ~90 ft/lbs. You should soak the fibers in oil before installing. Clean the steels with brake cleaner before installing they have a coating of grease on them to prevent rust from the factory. The steels and fibers included in the kit are OEM parts; wear will be identical given the same riding conditions. The Muzzys hub is simply a modifed stock hub so yes it's 100% compatible. Do you need a billet basket? Probably not if you don't launch off the line hard or drag race the bike. Inspect your stock basket for signs of cracking while you have the cover off. Clutch spring bolts are 78-INCH pounds and the cover bolts are 120-INCH pounds (the book says 132-in/lbs but this can snap bolts with oil on the head). You may find it difficult to hold the stock basket still while tightening the nut on the hub, we made a tool for this using old steels welded to a old tire iron or breaker bar which holds the basket while you torque down the nut. Changing the oil and filter is not required unless you're due for this service anyway, when you pull the cover you wont lose much oil especially if it's on the side-stand. You may as well modify the puller rod for additional oiling while you're doing it. See the instructions/photos on my website http://www.dontbescaredracing.com/photos/clutch/
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beansbaxter
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posted November 05, 2002 03:01 PM
What is the life expectancy of the Muzzy Billet Clutch Basket? No plans to get one now, sure hope my stock one isnt cracked.
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posted November 05, 2002 03:20 PM
Oh man I just got mine delivered today. HOLY COW what a nice part 
Rather on the heavy side compared to the stocker.
Now to get the sumbitch on
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posted November 05, 2002 08:27 PM
Haven't heard of a single failure with a billet basket, should last the life of the bike.
My billet basket:
The inner hub however can and will wear out with abuse, even the Muzzys piece, so don't expect that to last forever if you race. It's a wearable item.
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beansbaxter
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posted November 06, 2002 11:40 AM
So for those of you, including myself, who call the dealer a stealer should listen to this.....
I just called my dealer, shot in the dark, and asked and they said the clutch was still covered under warranty on my motorcycle. Too bad for me I didnt precall that in ahead of time, for it takes six days till they receive the clutch. And I need to be riding with what little time is left this riding season. I wouldnt have spent that $325 to get that Muzzy shipped to my door, shows up today.
That's Mac's Cycle out of Clarkston, WA and I didnt even buy my 12 from them.
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ninja12
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posted November 06, 2002 12:01 PM
Take your new parts in and let them install , with the understanding that
they will replace them when thier parts come in.
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kawdawg
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posted November 10, 2002 07:38 PM
Muzzy inner basket is OEM kaw part just modified a little. The kaw # is stamped right on it. So for anyone wanting to save some money just drill some holes in the basket that came with the bike.
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beansbaxter
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posted November 11, 2002 12:10 AM
Yeah, I know that now. I do believe the Muzzy kit has minor increases in thickness on some of the parts that come with the Muzzy kit.
The heavy duty springs are thicker too, but the kit only comes with 3 of them and recommends you use 3 of the stock springs to combine for the total 6 springs in the clutch setup.
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posted November 11, 2002 03:40 PM
I am running six of the heavy springs.
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jason370
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posted November 15, 2002 02:00 AM
i just saw the word clutch and figured that everyone would want it at the top
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beansbaxter
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posted November 15, 2002 08:27 PM
I agree....at the top.
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