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posted November 02, 2002 04:26 PM
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Stupid CA emissions question...
Hey Guys,
I need your help. Can you guys help me identify this thing? The manual calls it a canister. It's on the page labeled "Evaporative Emission Control System (California Model Only.) It takes up way too much room in my trunk, and I want to get rid of it if I can. Here are my questions:
1. What the heck it this thing for?
2. Can I just disconnect it and plug the lines going into it without affecting the performance of the bike?
  
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VincentHill
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posted November 02, 2002 04:52 PM
Edited By: VincentHill on 2 Nov 2002 16:54
Evaporative Charcoal Cannister!
It stores the "Fumes" from your gas tank while the engine is off and returns them to the intake system when the engine is restarted later!
The only problem is that if you overfill your tank and raw fuel gets into the system, you will have an over rich problem that makes the bike very hard starting!
To remove it, you need the drawings of the 49 state model to make the changes!
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wannabe
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posted November 02, 2002 05:08 PM
Thanks Vincent. So, you're saying that removing it is not as easy as just plugging the lines? Bummer.
I don't suppose you have the 49 state model drawings handy, do you?
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posted November 02, 2002 06:38 PM
Interested to do that too .. myself..
Any one tryed? 
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posted November 02, 2002 10:56 PM
Mine is off and I have had no problems, I wounder if that is want got me into the 8's O I forgot about that 90 shoot of NOS hehehe.
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wannabe
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posted November 02, 2002 11:12 PM
Did you just pull the canister out and plug the tubes? Details, details, details..... Please! I really want to get rid of that freakin thing.
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posted November 03, 2002 10:30 AM
I removed the kleen, pluged the airbox and 1 of the lines to the fuel rail, left 2 lines hooked up to the fuel tank and 1 to the fuel rails and removed the canister.
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VincentHill
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posted November 03, 2002 12:32 PM
The "Service Manual" Should have the drawings! I was out today changing Oil, replacing Batteries and adding Shims to the fuel distributor (in the BMW) today and van! My Wife is "GONNNNNE" with her new toy (The Mini "S") and I do not expect her back until night fall! (maybe)
I had to do this exact same thing to my ZX11! I bought one tube to make it "Stock looking"!!
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posted November 04, 2002 09:15 AM
Can someone be a bit more specific about this? (with pictures) I'm a total rook when it comes to this.
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VincentHill
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posted November 04, 2002 09:18 AM
quote:
Can someone be a bit more specific about this? (with pictures) I'm a total rook when it comes to this.
Do you have a "Service" Manual??
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posted November 04, 2002 09:26 AM
So if I move to California, is my 12 still legal to drive there without that CA stuff?
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wannabe
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posted November 04, 2002 10:47 AM
Vincent, yes, I do have a service manual, but I can't seem to find any drawings for the system. Maybe I'm just being blind. Can you point out a specific page for me?
Beans, technically, it will not be legal, but there is no way for the govt to check it. There is no law mandating smog checks on bikes in CA. (I hope it stays that way.)
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posted November 04, 2002 12:56 PM
Mine came off the first day, I went and bought the little bottle that the 48 state vehicle has. I believe I plugged off the R/H return vent on the tank. The chart to use is the online parts book at buykawasaki.com
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posted November 04, 2002 02:23 PM
Something Happened to my post! All I said was, I will look up the page tonight and Post it!
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posted November 04, 2002 02:25 PM
Edited By: wannabe on 4 Nov 2002 14:26
Thanks, Vincent. I look forward to your post. In the meantime, all I could find on the parts list was this. I found no mention of the 49-state model.
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posted November 04, 2002 05:01 PM
I went to buykawasaki.com and selected parts manuals, then the 2000 zx12 then you are asked which model you want the cali spec or the 49 state spec. Went to fuel tank (in the 49 state spec and found the hose and the bottle). just go to the cali spec to see the setup differences.
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posted November 04, 2002 05:12 PM
You got it Ted. Removing the canister and installing the simple little hose and bottle should be a piece of cake.
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posted November 04, 2002 05:24 PM
Edited By: wannabe on 4 Nov 2002 17:28
OK, Ted. I feel like a total idiot here. I'm looking at the fuel tank drawing for the 49-state ZX-12. Would you be kind enough to tell me the ref # or part number of the hose & bottle you're talking about?
By 'bottle' do you mean that little plastic thingy that Kawasaki calls "BREATHER,FUEL TANK DRAIN?"
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posted November 04, 2002 05:54 PM
I looked at "1-37" and it showed the California Model, but I could not find the "Equal" view for the 49 State model!
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posted November 04, 2002 06:36 PM
Thanks for trying Vincent. If you couldn't find it, that at least makes me feel better.
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posted November 04, 2002 06:47 PM
Wannabe... look at the fuel tank diagram. part number 14069A that is the little plastic bottle that I beleive you are looking for. The diagram should give all of the hoses etc. Hopefully this answers your question.
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posted November 04, 2002 11:13 PM
Got it!!! Thanks!!!
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posted November 05, 2002 12:38 PM
Z got it, I was busy over at the LABusas pissing off the Busa minions. Sorry.
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