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posted October 10, 2002 10:27 PM
Oh Jason370... whats the deal?
Checking things out over laBusa and it appears that you have been getting whacked by the busas! I thought you had worked these issues out. Whats the deal?
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posted October 10, 2002 10:50 PM
yeah..i noticed that too zhool...jason..went from seeing the busa in his rear mirror...to he wins 50% of the time...what a reversal..so jason i ask too...what happened?
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posted October 11, 2002 11:28 AM
ill tell ya what happened
at first i was green, so zrxchris's stock 99 busa was beatin up on my 02' stock zx12 because i wasnt keeping y bike within its powerband when we started the race(s). once i made sure to start around 7k rpm's, it was a joke. i wrecked him........bad. then he tossed his stock exhause and put a full micron on. now i know that micron sorta sucks, but its 30 lbs lighter than the twin exhaust that came stock, and it does make more hp. i geared my bike (17/47) and i'm starting to think i shoulda gone with a 48 cause he now consistently beats me by half a tire to a full tire.
It's close, very close, but unfortunately his lighter piped bike is an asshair faster than my heavier geared bike.
problem will be very solved soon enough, i',m looking into full exhaust systems, (akra, hindle, muzzys, tiforce) i'll buy one probably in january, and come march this will all be a laughing matter.
The good news is that after taking a California superbike school class at pikes peak, I seem to be consideably faster in the twisties and was pulling far away from his busa after a set of turns.
I'ts been a seesaw battle between the two of us so far, which is pretty cool. we basically live across the street from each other. he is acyually storing his busa in my garage this winter so acyually i can save myself about 1500 bucks and just sabotage his bike rather than drop cash on a full system (just kidding, well sorta).
Thanks for keeping on my ass, I'll make sure to represent zx12 style.
jason
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posted October 11, 2002 01:37 PM
As a winter project you can relocate his air temp sensor to right next to one of the headers...lol. It will make his bike run like crap...lol.
Or you can purchase a 2001 ECM and sell his 99 one for a substansial profit on EBay.
I like Chris though, so maybe just "let" him win...lol
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posted October 11, 2002 01:38 PM
Jason, If you are buying an Exhaust system in "January" then (with the newest mods to the Hindle Step tube and maps complete and being able to buy the complete systam for around $750 (Oval Ti Muffler) I would First #1 look at the Hindle then the TiForce!
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posted October 11, 2002 05:03 PM
 Edited By: jason370 on 11 Oct 2002 18:06
750!!!, damn thats a hella lot less than i expected. woo hoo. i hope its true.
i live in the mountains so my season is basically over and wont begin til at least mid march, prolly more like mid april. so i got a lot O time to decide.
i shall take your advice very seriously, the akra sure looks nice though.
decisions decisions.
oh yeah turboblew,
i like chris too, but losing is not an option. besides he'll have a wife and new born soon so he wont be able to keep up with me on blowing cash on making a fast bike faster.
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posted October 11, 2002 08:27 PM
Edited By: ZHooligan on 11 Oct 2002 21:28
Yeah jason the Hindle is pretty inexpensive. Big reason is it is Stainless. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but it is not beautiful. The Muzzy Ti System is also pretty reasonably priced. As I recall I paid about $850 for my full Ti system. The TiForce goes for about $1,050 and the Akro I think is round $1200 or more.
I get bummed persoanlly because I can't seem to get any of the Busas in my neck of the woods to mix it up. I'm a push over too. They should be excited at the chance to race my nearly three year (2000 model)old bike.  And I am nearly 50 years old to boot. And heck those hyabusas are just faster then everything. Gosh I sure hope I don't run into one on the way home from the track this weekend. 
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posted October 11, 2002 08:50 PM
doesnt hindle have a c/f and a full ti as well,? that would have to be in the 1100 dollar range, no?
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posted October 11, 2002 11:07 PM
Edited By: ZHooligan on 13 Oct 2002 11:36
I don't believe Hindle does a Ti pipe for the 12 or for that matter any Ti pipes at all if I remeber corectly. In fact Hindle's marketing matra is that they make the lightest Stainless steel system in the world if I remeber it correctly.
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posted October 12, 2002 07:24 AM
Jason, why don't you try the "Y2K" mods until you get the pipe? Picked my stock bike up almost 2/10ths in the 1/4 mile. What do you think he'll feel like with a stock-piped 12 beating up on him!?!
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posted October 13, 2002 03:47 AM
Edited By: moodybluezx12r on 13 Oct 2002 04:49
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ill tell ya what happened
at first i was green, so zrxchris's stock 99 busa was beatin up on my 02' stock zx12 because i wasnt keeping y bike within its powerband when we started the race(s). once i made sure to start around 7k rpm's, it was a joke. i wrecked him........bad. then he tossed his stock exhause and put a full micron on. now i know that micron sorta sucks, but its 30 lbs lighter than the twin exhaust that came stock, and it does make more hp. i geared my bike (17/47) and i'm starting to think i shoulda gone with a 48 cause he now consistently beats me by half a tire to a full tire.
It's close, very close, but unfortunately his lighter piped bike is an asshair faster than my heavier geared bike.
problem will be very solved soon enough, i',m looking into full exhaust systems, (akra, hindle, muzzys, tiforce) i'll buy one probably in january, and come march this will all be a laughing matter.
The good news is that after taking a California superbike school class at pikes peak, I seem to be consideably faster in the twisties and was pulling far away from his busa after a set of turns.
I'ts been a seesaw battle between the two of us so far, which is pretty cool. we basically live across the street from each other. he is acyually storing his busa in my garage this winter so acyually i can save myself about 1500 bucks and just sabotage his bike rather than drop cash on a full system (just kidding, well sorta).
Thanks for keeping on my ass, I'll make sure to represent zx12 style.
jason
Good...I knew it had to be a reason...now when you get your pipe on (really doesnt matter which)i ride hindle(plug) ..i want you to spank him like he stole something. 
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posted October 13, 2002 07:01 PM
This should be interesting. Your busa buds are of course plotting on your demise. They are certain that anything you do to the 12 they can do better to the busa. This looks a lot like the cold war. Mutual assurd destruction and all that stuff. You do realize that $350 can buy you 50 hp that can be concealed without a trace! The race would be over in a few seconds! oops thats part of that old age and treachery shit!! 
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posted October 13, 2002 07:56 PM
im gonna do it straight up first, i knopw that ill win. i was better stock, and with equal mods ill be better again. notrous would be sweet though, ill think about it.
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posted October 13, 2002 08:30 PM
Dont think...just do it
You cant bolt on that much hp with ANY other mod for the price.
And he will never know
Do it before he does. lol
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posted October 14, 2002 07:23 AM
quote:
im gonna do it straight up first, i knopw that ill win. i was better stock, and with equal mods ill be better again. notrous would be sweet though, ill think about it.
jg
i agre..beat him straight up..mod for mod first..which you will have know problem..being as though i beat my friend that rides a busa (00) 10 out of 10 times with the same mods on our bikes...and i weigh 20 more lbs than he. go get him grasshopper
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posted October 14, 2002 04:37 PM
Never bring a knife to a knife fight! You might get cut!
I usually admit to the guys that my bike is bone stock except for a few cosmetic enhancements. Sometimes I will even get some encouuragement and advice on how to make my bike run well and make the roll on with them closer. Of course shortly there after the roll on starts with my 1361 on NOS and it is a suprise how good the advice was!!!!!!!
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posted October 15, 2002 04:21 AM
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Never bring a knife to a knife fight! You might get cut!
I usually admit to the guys that my bike is bone stock except for a few cosmetic enhancements. Sometimes I will even get some encouuragement and advice on how to make my bike run well and make the roll on with them closer. Of course shortly there after the roll on starts with my 1361 on NOS and it is a suprise how good the advice was!!!!!!!
good point
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