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posted October 03, 2002 05:32 PM
Edited By: jse20 on 3 Oct 2002 18:33
Upgrading brake lines 2002?
I am making my shopping list,
Akrapovic w/carbon can
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K&N filter
Muzzy fans
Muzzys reed cover plates
17t sprocket
Bonnieville Box
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**Brake lines = ???
Anyone upgrade the brake lines on a 2002 ZX12r? I am not seeing specific brake line kits for a 2002. Will lines for a 2001 fit? Any suggestions?
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DaveInDaytona

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posted October 03, 2002 05:54 PM
Yes, brake lines are the same.
I like the Goodridge Carbo lines.
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posted October 03, 2002 05:59 PM
DaveInDaytona, you r da man! I am getting those too.
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posted October 03, 2002 09:42 PM
I run galfers on my 12. Swft has the goodrich lines on his. When I compared the two with stock calipers I liked Swfts a tad bit more. Don't if it is the difference in lines or just a difference in our almost identical calipers. Either way I don't think you can go wrong. The main thing is the braided Stainless make a significant difference.
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posted October 04, 2002 03:54 AM
Thanks guys,
I am looking for a vendor for the Goodridge carbo lines. I have braided lines on my other bikes and the 12 really feels squishy by comparison. By they way, can someone send me a PB&J sandwich or two to help a brother get by til next payday?
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posted October 04, 2002 04:37 AM
Vendor:
http://www.streetandcomp.com/
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http://etrata.home.attbi.com/flash/banana.swf
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posted October 04, 2002 06:30 AM
You might check the Muzzys lines. Teflon/stainless shrink wrapped with black anti abrasion sleeve. All stainless hardware. Don't forget to change to the Motul brake fluid.
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posted October 04, 2002 07:27 AM
I have the Muzzy line on the rear of my bike. Works great. Need to get the front one now. Doug, any specific color can or just plain Motul Dot??
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posted October 04, 2002 08:20 AM
stainless or kevlar, whats the best?
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posted October 04, 2002 08:33 AM
You want the Motul RBF600 "exceeds DOT 4"
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posted October 04, 2002 12:40 PM
I just put a set of Muzzy brake lines on my bike. Love them. Have great stopping power. Especially at Maxton. Big improvement over stock. I also used Motul RBF 600 brake fluid. Was told that this brake fluid is very hydroscopic and needed to be changed about once per month. Any truth to this ?
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posted October 04, 2002 02:32 PM
I don't think so, but I'll check with Motul and ask why you may have heard that.
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posted October 04, 2002 02:59 PM
I just spoke with Dave Wolman, President of Motul USA. He says that that information is "chat room crap" resulting from a once true "rule of thumb" that held that racing fluids were very hydroscopic. This is no longer true. Chemists have changed these formulas over the last ten years, coming up with synthetic fliuids like the RBF that has a wet (fluid with 3.5% moisture content) boiling point of 421 F. This Fluid is a DOT 4, and the DOT 4 specifications require a 1 year life, minimum. Not to worry.
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posted October 04, 2002 03:37 PM
how often is it changed?...or can we just follow factory timeline with rbf oil?
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posted October 04, 2002 05:14 PM
Voz, I say once a year is enough unless your doing 30 or more trackdays.
I put 20000 miles on my last bike and changed it twice.
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posted October 04, 2002 05:14 PM
Voz, I say once a year is enough unless your doing 30 or more trackdays.
I put 20000 miles on my last bike and changed it twice.
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posted October 04, 2002 05:34 PM
gracias TB
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posted October 04, 2002 07:29 PM
I've been using spectro sx600. Not dot rated and not a silicone. Is this a wrong or bad choice?
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posted October 04, 2002 10:17 PM
Edited By: ZHooligan on 4 Oct 2002 23:19
I personally find that it is not so much the brand as the maintanence. I would suggest you pay attention to the Dot rating and follow the manufactures reccomendation on that. Brake fluid is one of those items that people seem to ignore or think it is good forever. I usually flush my brake fluid about twice a year on the street bike and at twice during race season if not more on my race bike. I flush my car and truck brakes every 12,000 miles also. I have never had to rebuild a caliper and or replace a seal as a result. It is because of contamination and water in the brake fluid that the calipers and seals go bad.
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posted October 05, 2002 12:54 PM
I generally use generic DOT 4 brake fluid on my street bikes. I used higher end stuff in the past but damned if I could tell any difference. Change it out once a year.
Thanks for the assistance with the thread. I will post some photos once it is all done. I am expecting everything to be installed and tuned in two weeks.
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posted October 18, 2002 07:03 PM
Edited By: jse20 on 18 Oct 2002 20:05
Got everything installed. I ended up calling Goodridge directly and ordered the carbo braided steel lines with black fittings. SpencerCycle hooked me up on a bunch of parts and I would do business with Doug again. Thanks Doug! I am still waiting on my shiftlight. (damnit) but I got it mapped and pulled 179 rwhp, that's 20 hp over stock 159 rwhp (kick ass) . Hope to get all the plastic back on it tomorrow and go for a ride. Thanks to DaveInDaytona for the tip on the carbo Goodridge lines.
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posted October 21, 2002 01:31 AM
Hey Doug,
You guys making brake lines for the ZZR1200 yet? Love the bike, but the brakes feel pretty soft, compared to my 12R.
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posted October 21, 2002 04:07 AM
Edited By: jse20 on 21 Oct 2002 05:09
Hey swft,
Goodridge is making lines for the ZZR 1200. Here is a link to the application chart with part numbers. I used these part numbers and ordered directly from Goodridge by calling the headquarters in Indiana, I got the lines in 4 days even though they said they would have to have them made as they were not stocked. Lockhart Phillips told me 6 to 8 weeks.
http://www.goodridge.net/ussportbikes/usmc_kawa.html
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posted October 21, 2002 08:37 AM
Thanks JSE20. I've contacted Goodridge as well, and haven't heard back from them yet. If possible, I'd rather support a company located right here in the PNW. But if Muzzy's doesn't make them, I'll almost certainly go with the Goodridge lines. I've had the -2 (small diameter) lines on my 12 for 2.5 years now, and they are great.
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posted October 23, 2002 10:32 AM
OK, so which brake lines should I get?
What's the difference in them?
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